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Arsillus
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Topic: What do you think of Revolution 9 (The Be Posted: August 03 2006 at 00:12 |
A cool song- very different for its time. I like the choice "ambitous failure." It didn't quite work for them. What if it really was a popular song and the Beatles went from being the premier pop band to a trippy drug (albiet poppy) band to the first RIO/Avant-Garde band?
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Posted: August 03 2006 at 00:09 |
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Posted: July 27 2006 at 07:58 |
It took contemporary avant garde into several million homes that would otherwise never have been exposed to it, and became probably the most skipped track in the history of popular music. Had it been released by Faust or Holger Czukay nobody would have batted an eyelid.
I see it as an ambitious failure - preferable by far to Honey Pie or Rocky Racoon, and with some genuinely spine tingling moments, but it would have worked better either as a full blown, side long epic or edited down a little.
Incidentally, I heard once that John Cale based one of his songs on a sequence of notes from Revolution #9 - does anybody know if it's true, and if so, which song?
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Posted: July 27 2006 at 07:45 |
A druggy trip. And its preety cool, i like it. The album whuld not be the same without it.
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Posted: July 23 2006 at 11:34 |
RoyalJelly wrote:
tdreamer wrote:
Spoils an otherwise great album. |
I think it adds to an otherwise great album, that was spoiled by "Rocky Racoon" and "OhBlaDiOhBlaDa", ugghh...same way "Maxwell's Silver Hammer" sucks on Abbey Road. |
Maxwell's Silver hammer is the worst Beatles Song, and it's a shame that this piece f cr*p is in the best beatles album IMO.
About Revolution: it's a experiment that makes sense in its context, but doesn't add anything new to the Beatles titanical catalogue of masterpieces. Neither a masterpiece nor a complete failure. Just a thing that today has only a historical value, but not a concrete value per se.
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Posted: July 22 2006 at 23:40 |
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It's garbage. Forget about calling it music. I wouldn't even call it art. I've farted farts which had more value as music than that. |
Yes, the Simpsons version where Barney burps after his new girlfriend "the Japanese conceptual artist" shouts "Number 8" during a "Be Sharps" session is more artistic.
Iván
Edited by Ivan_Melgar_M - July 22 2006 at 23:41
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Posted: July 22 2006 at 21:52 |
It's garbage. Forget about calling it music. I wouldn't even call it art. I've farted farts which had more value as music than that.
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Fire up the flux capacitor ! We're taking this Delorean through all four dimensions.
What is the future of prog ? Genesis reunion ? I'm not telling!That could upset the thyme/space continuum.
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Posted: July 20 2006 at 09:33 |
Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:
Sorry, just a waste of space in the album.
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Nah - that'll be "Rocky Racoon"
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Posted: July 17 2006 at 01:36 |
Sorry, just a waste of space in the album.
Iván
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Posted: July 13 2006 at 01:05 |
I'm not saying this is even close to instrumentals of the time, such as Frank Zappa's The Gumbo Variations, or acid songs by Pink Floyd such as Astronomy Domine or Set The Controls For The Heart of the Sun-there were many better prog pioneers at the time The Beatles released the White Album, but for the Beatles, a heavily pop-oriented band(I mean, come on, they had to be if they were trashed by Frank Zappa), this was a big leap in the direction of prog rock, although Magical Mystery Tour was damn experimental in a lot of ways too(the song Flying is the only instrumental the Beatles ever did, and I don't count Revolution 9 as a song). All I know is that this number helped the Beatles break the pop barrier and become known as a band that was more interesting than just breaking pop hits, and all this would pave the way for Abbey Road, which is a work of genius and the perfect blend of pop and prog rock.
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Posted: July 12 2006 at 17:13 |
I like it only because I like to pretend I'm going insane when I listen to it (I guess I'll say a druggy trip)
Edited by MustShaveBeard - July 12 2006 at 17:13
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Posted: July 12 2006 at 12:01 |
I like the song, it's like a 9 minute long acid trip.
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Posted: July 12 2006 at 11:52 |
"Hold That Line. Hold That Line."
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Posted: July 11 2006 at 23:37 |
I'm Cheese's sister, he's letting me use his name.
Rev 9: A funny little tune that ought not be taken too seriously, don't get me wrong i luvvvv the Beatles but Yoko's influence was evedent and i like Beatle music not Yoko music. Theres a point when "art" becomes a bit to arty and out of touch and for me Yoko's like that.
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Posted: July 11 2006 at 18:14 |
soundsweird wrote:
As a fan of Stockhausen for about 35 years (I think it was about 1970), I must say that this piece has little to offer the avant-garde fan, although humor can be found in some of the source material. After hearing "What's the New Mary Jane" on the Beatles Anthology III, I wish THAT song had made the cut, not "Revolution 9". |
I'd say that humour is what it has to offer the avante-garde fan
Edited by Certif1ed - July 11 2006 at 18:15
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Posted: July 11 2006 at 10:46 |
Certif1ed wrote:
Peter Rideout wrote:
It's certainly not a "song," per se. " border=0
I consider it a druggy, semi-horrible, experimental piece of self-indulgent studio filler, but also a fairly revealing glimpse at both the times, and the (then) state of rock's most important band ever.
It is what it is.
(It is and it isn't.)
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Is that also your opinion of "Kontakte"? How about "Gesang der Junglinge"?
They sound remarkably similar in style
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Sorry -- never heard them. But if they sound similar, I doubt if I'd care for them as something to play for pleasure (which is why I listen to music).
My response was from the heart. R#9 is a track to skip, for me. (I've heard it enough to know I don't like it -- but I don't really think I'm expected to like it, either.)
Still, as I said, it is a reflection of its time (Stockhausen influence, LSD influence, Vietnam/Cold War chaos, social unrest in the West, tensions within the Beatles -- whatever).
Edited by Peter Rideout - July 11 2006 at 10:55
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Posted: July 10 2006 at 22:50 |
As a fan of Stockhausen for about 35 years (I think it was about 1970), I must say that this piece has little to offer the avant-garde fan, although humor can be found in some of the source material. After hearing "What's the New Mary Jane" on the Beatles Anthology III, I wish THAT song had made the cut, not "Revolution 9".
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Posted: July 10 2006 at 15:17 |
Peter Rideout wrote:
It's certainly not a "song," per se.
I consider it a druggy, semi-horrible, experimental piece of self-indulgent studio filler, but also a fairly revealing glimpse at both the times, and the (then) state of rock's most important band ever.
It is what it is.
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Are we clear on that now? |
Is that also your opinion of "Kontakte"? How about "Gesang der Junglinge"?
They sound remarkably similar in style
Edited by Certif1ed - July 10 2006 at 15:18
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Posted: July 09 2006 at 00:36 |
It's certainly not a "song," per se.
I consider it a druggy, semi-horrible, experimental piece of self-indulgent studio filler, but also a fairly revealing glimpse at both the times, and the (then) state of rock's most important band ever.
It is what it is.
(It is and it isn't.)
Are we clear on that now?
Edited by Peter Rideout - July 09 2006 at 00:37
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Posted: July 07 2006 at 18:54 |
I should have added an "interesting" choice.
I choose "Ambitious Failure", though it can be so unlistenable in parts.
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