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Poll Question: What style in prog.music is your favourite
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Originally posted by philippe philippe wrote:

Je vois vraiment pasce qu'il ya de symphonique dans Camel...mais bon peut etre n'ais-je pas écouté les bon albums...pour moi c'était quand même plus le style de Canterbury. ah oui j'oubliais Wallenstein font vraiment du symphonic prog. Qu'en penses-tu?

Perso, moi non plus

D'ailleurs je ne partage pas tellement le terme de Rock Symphonique qui possède pour moi une certaine conotation "pompier"
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Originally posted by lucas lucas wrote:

Originally posted by philippe philippe wrote:

Can you name some of the so called symphonic bands,...unfortunately I'm more familiar with the ambiant, jazz & Kraut sides of prog rock.

Do you mean sloppy music made by the infamous Symphony X and others...however, I remember that some italian prog used symphonic sh*t strings...is that what you are refering?

Salut Philippe, en tant que français je te réponds dans ta langue maternelle. Le prog symphonique englobe des groupes tels que Genesis, Yes, Gentle Giant, Camel, Locanda delle fate, Le Orme, Quella Vecchia Locanda... bref les monstres sacrés anglais et italiens des 70's plus des groupes plus récents comme Anglagard (entièrement instrumental), The Flower Kings, Spock's Beard. Ca n'a rien à voir avec les groupe neo-classiques à la Malmsteen : Stratovarius, Angra et compagnie.

Je vois vraiment pasce qu'il ya de symphonique dans Camel...mais bon peut etre n'ais-je pas écouté les bon albums...pour moi c'était quand même plus le style de Canterbury. ah oui j'oubliais Wallenstein font vraiment du symphonic prog. Qu'en penses-tu?

 



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Canterbury is it for me...maybe just because i'm into it at the moment...
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I wonder if there's a better song on this World...that's what I think at the moment, there were and will be other times and opinions but for now it is Canterbury...
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Originally posted by philippe philippe wrote:

Can you name some of the so called symphonic bands,...unfortunately I'm more familiar with the ambiant, jazz & Kraut sides of prog rock.

Do you mean sloppy music made by the infamous Symphony X and others...however, I remember that some italian prog used symphonic sh*t strings...is that what you are refering?

Salut Philippe, en tant que français je te réponds dans ta langue maternelle. Le prog symphonique englobe des groupes tels que Genesis, Yes, Gentle Giant, Camel, Locanda delle fate, Le Orme, Quella Vecchia Locanda... bref les monstres sacrés anglais et italiens des 70's plus des groupes plus récents comme Anglagard (entièrement instrumental), The Flower Kings, Spock's Beard. Ca n'a rien à voir avec les groupe neo-classiques à la Malmsteen : Stratovarius, Angra et compagnie.
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Can you name some of the so called symphonic bands,...unfortunately I'm more familiar with the ambiant, jazz & Kraut sides of prog rock.

Do you mean sloppy music made by the infamous Symphony X and others...however, I remember that some italian prog used symphonic sh*t strings...is that what you are refering?
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I'll have to go with symphonic.

I enjoy a bit of canterbury and krautrock, but I'm afraid the majority of my favourite bands fall under the symphonic heading.
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Yes, I know : I prefer symphonic rock but as a "Tauhd Zaïa" I have voted for Zeuhl !

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Strange that nobody here listen to krautrock...for me it's simply the must of prog rock subgenre (by fare)
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Originally posted by Paco Fox Paco Fox wrote:


Most of proggers come from different genres looking for
something more. So this is a meta-genre, don't you think?


 



I think that this is very true, prog. music has so many aspects, such
a big room to play in that curious music-lovers in general allways
will finding something. Yes, we are very very lucky indeed those of
us that has found all this great music through the years
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true

On the Gibraltar pages he has his own genre (Zappa too)



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Originally posted by lucas lucas wrote:

Anders, you forgot some subgenres : ambient[/
B] (Eno for instance), electronic (aka New Age, i.e. names such
as Mike Oldfield, Tangerine Dream, Synergy...),


I wouldn't say Oldfield is electronic. Most of his classic records feature lots of acoustic instruments.  He is more a genre in himself

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Originally posted by Zaragon Zaragon wrote:


Oh sh... where will it end, where will it end? Anyway, how lucky
we are, all these great artists, all this great genres, all this great
great music [/QUOTE]

This is the great thing about prog. You take other genres. Let's say reagge, for example. You really don't have much choice. But in prog there's a lot of different approaches to music. You don't even have to like all the aspects of prog.

Most of proggers come from different genres looking for something more. So this is a meta-genre, don't you think?

 
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Originally posted by lucas lucas wrote:

Anders, you forgot some subgenres : ambient[/
B] (Eno for instance), electronic (aka New Age, i.e. names such
as Mike Oldfield, Tangerine Dream, Synergy...), RIO (Henry
Cow, 5UU's, Miriodor...), jazz-fusion (Bruford, Brand X, Zappa,
Kenso...), pomp prog (Magnum, Asia...), hard prog (King
Crimson, VDGG). 


 


 


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Originally posted by Gonghobbit Gonghobbit wrote:

So much great stuff from the Canterbury scene, gotta go with that one.

Likewise.
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Anders, you forgot some subgenres : ambient (Eno for instance), electronic (aka New Age, i.e. names such as Mike Oldfield, Tangerine Dream, Synergy...), RIO (Henry Cow, 5UU's, Miriodor...), jazz-fusion (Bruford, Brand X, Zappa, Kenso...), pomp prog (Magnum, Asia...), hard prog (King Crimson, VDGG). 

 

 
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Starship,

Try http://www.syzygymusic.com/Bios/History.htm

The site has some MP3's. I suggest M.O.T.H.

If you like Spock's Beard and Yes and ELP, it's for you.

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Cheers for that Danbo. I have voted now. I have listened to a few Glass hammer sound clips....I havent found any Syzygy sound clips but I will check them out if I get the chance. I bought The Tangent...The Music That Died Alone a few days ago, that is a pretty good album as well.

Wow thats cool. I have just become a Groupie with this post.



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Those bands are all considered Symphonic.

Other bands you may want to check out from the same vein are: Syzygy, Glass Hammer and Zen Rock and Roll (Progrock Records).

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