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    Posted: November 12 2005 at 09:41

Good music. Great Latin rhythms, groovy hand drumming and batucada, blistering electric guitar, etc. Listen to many of their numbers: loads of cha-cha, samba, rumba and salsa.

I used to have some of the early albums, and various friends over the years have been fans. I don't have to mention The Zombies cover, of course. I like it all; it's easy-listening (not in the Burt Bacharach sense of the term!) to my ears. Latin-rock fusion, or whatever you want to call it, but not Prog Rock (Carlos Santana did not think so, either).

In September this year BMG Music Spain released the 3-CD "Trilogía" (82876701682) which contains the re-mastered CDs (plus bonus tracks) of the LPs Santana (1969), Abraxas (1970) and Santana III (1971). I discovered it in Madrid and picked it up for 24 Euros. It's a reasonable way of obtaining their first three albums. The Trilogía pack comes with an interesting booklet (in Spanish).

 
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santana is cool.  moonflower, abraxas and lotus are excellent.  check out the vinyl version of Lotus.
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Points: 4828 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 14 2005 at 14:18
I found CD version of "Abraxas" from the discount shelf, and it's a good album. Perhaps too happy and easy for my taste? I'll have to make some re-checking at tomorrow's highway rush...
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He is so obviously not prog,for f**k's sake!!!

 
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Originally posted by dropForge dropForge wrote:

Originally posted by The Miracle The Miracle wrote:

Welcome was boring for me.

Bite your tongue!

Theres really not too much left to bite

 
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Points: 823 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 14 2005 at 09:29
I've always considered him pregressive, but not in the same vein of bands as, say, Yes or Genesis.  you have to look at what he did with his music to understand how he was preogressive.
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Santana: prog-latin-fusion-rock?????

"Lotus", recorded live in Japan, also has some prog moments.

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I have always wondered about Santana myself. they definitely have their prog moments. and albums like "Abraxas" or their excellent live album "Moonflower" are prog pure, in my opinion. perhaps their style could be named "Latin-Prog"


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Caravanerai has been beautifully remastered.....fans of the album who bought the old Columbia "Nice Price" CD would be well served to pick this one up.  A 100% improvement on a real early 70s fusion classic.
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Originally posted by Tony Fisher Tony Fisher wrote:

Caravanserai and Abraxas are masterpieces and undoubtedly prog

You'll get no argument from me on that! And Carlos' early solo album Oneness has got quite a few proggy instances, too.
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Originally posted by The Miracle The Miracle wrote:

Welcome was boring for me.

Bite your tongue!

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Caravanserai and Abraxas are masterpieces and undoubtedly prog - far more so than Queen or Rush. If they are here, so should Santana. However, like them, some of his work is not prog.
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Points: 3323 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 14 2005 at 04:42
Santana should be here, Caravanserai, Abraxas,
Welcome, Borboletta are more progressive than
many of the english bands on PROGARCHIVES!
IF you consider the words PROGRESSIVE ROCK as
what it is, as opossed to the ENGLISH perversion of
the term.
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Welcome was boring for me. I love Abraxas and Supernatural, though
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Originally posted by Sweetnighter Sweetnighter wrote:

Why isn't Santana mentioned on here more often? His music is undeniably
progressive, and he played with many fusion players in the 70s.

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Absolutetly right
For example "Caravanseraî" is a wonderful peace of world
jazz rock prog
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Points: 3013 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 12 2004 at 02:32
It's kind of a shame about his latest couple of albums though...
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Points: 19535 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 12 2004 at 00:40

Carlos Santana is one of my favorite musicians, a real genius, but not very related to prog.

Maybe Caravanserai and Love Devotion & Surrender with John Mc'Laughlin.

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Points: 608 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 12 2004 at 00:22

The closest Santana got to prog/fusion was on these albums:

Caravanserai (1973)

Welcome (1974)

1st solo album: The Swing Of Delight (1979)

2nd solo album: Oneness (1980)

The opening track on that last one will fool you...almost sounds Camel-ish.
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Points: 5187 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 11 2004 at 15:41

Santana are great. One of my favourites.

But not prog.

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Points: 5502 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 11 2004 at 14:38

Especially for you dear Sweetnighter I'll mention him once.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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That wasn't so hard afterall

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