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thetick 
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 Topic: The best less popular prog LPs
Posted: June 05 2006 at 11:05 |
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This is a fun topic!! I am always touting albums by "popular bands"
that never seem the light of day. Here is my list (in no particular
order):
1. Pink Floyd - Animals
2. Yes - Relayer
3. Jethro Tull - Minstrel In the Gallery
4. Rush - Caress of Steel
5. DT - Six Degrees of Inner Turbulance
6. Shadow Gallery - Room V
7. Porcupine Tree - Voyage 34 - The Complete Trip
8. Fates Warning - Disconnected
9. Rush - Power Windows
10. Jethro Tull - Stormwatch
I am sure there are more.
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Posted: June 05 2006 at 10:37 |
 micky wrote:
nice variation of the old.... what are your top 10 prog albums thread ahahhah...
less than 4 stars yet could/should be in the top 10 huh....
1. Tales From Togographic Oceans.... damn crime that this thing ISN"T in the top 10 period anyway hahahha. Blows the doors off of half the Genesis albums sitting in there anyway... a defining album of prog. Ask the punks as they railed against the pompous nature of prog.... they had this albums cover pinned to their walls.
the only one really.... most albums if they are below a 4... don't deserve to be top 10 hahahah
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You took the words out of my mouth. 
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Posted: June 05 2006 at 10:13 |
1. Supertramp - Crime of The Century
2. Jean-Michel Jarre - Equinoxe
3. Meshuggah - Destroy Erase Improve
4. Brand X - Livestock
5. Frank Zappa - One Size Fits All
6. Magellan - Impending Ascension
7. Shadow Gallery - Carved In Stone
8. Hatfield And The North - The Rotter's Club
9. Gentle Giant - Acquiring The Taste
10. Gong - Gazeuse!
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Posted: June 05 2006 at 06:14 |
yeah, i agree with the Seasons End entry by Marillion. infact, all the Steve Hogarth Marillion albums are underrated. i prefer Hogarth Marillion!
um... Going For The One by Yes should be seen as a classic, but is not.
Signals by Rush should be a classic.
Steve Hillage's Fish Rising and Green should be up amongst the most highly rated, surely!
oh, and Ozric Tentacles should be more recognised for the amazing things they do with music.
that's all i can think of right now.
oh yeah, and Believe by Pendragon should be accepted as a fantastic album. but i think that'll take time for people.
~Adam
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Posted: June 05 2006 at 05:36 |
salmacis wrote:
Camel's 'I Can See Your House From Here', 'Breathless' and best of all, the flawless 'Nude' (which is often given lacklustre ratings) that stands as a pinnacle of their whole career imo, are all regularly played. Second division my foot!!
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I would also add "Rain Dances", which is considered better than those three, though not on a par with "Mirage", "The Snow Goose" and "Moonmadness". "Breathless" is much poppier than "Rain Dances" (which contains some really fantastic tracks, instrumental and otherwise), but it's quite a pleasant listen when you're not in the mood for anything more demanding - with the added bonus of Richard Sinclair's divine vocals! 
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Posted: June 04 2006 at 17:18 |
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1. Marillion - Brave
2. Neal Morse - Testimony
3. Kansas - Leftoverture
4. Genesis - Duke
5. Marillion - Marbles
6. Rush - Grace Under Pressure
7. Spock's Beard - Snow
8. Pendragon - Masquerade Overture
9. Glass Hammer - Lex Rex
10. Dream Theater - Images And Words
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Posted: June 04 2006 at 17:12 |
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<<09.Rush - Grace Under Pressure>>
So glad to see this disc get a mention or two. In my opinion, it's one of Rush's finest. Especially Lifeson. I think he was under a heavy Edge influence around this time, too.
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salmacis
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Posted: June 04 2006 at 16:28 |
I have to put 'And Then There Were Three' in the list- I've read many harsh things about the album but for me personally, it's a classic. There's still a lot of prog there- same with 'Duke' to an extent.
Camel's 'I Can See Your House From Here', 'Breathless' and best of all, the flawless 'Nude' (which is often given lacklustre ratings) that stands as a pinnacle of their whole career imo, are all regularly played. Second division my foot!!
Caravan's 'Cunning Stunts' and 'Blind Dog At St Dunstans' are highly enjoyable- the quality on both is very high.
Magnum are one of the more unsung bands here, though to these ears their music screams prog- early on, at least. Perhaps their most unsung release is 'The Eleventh Hour'- I didn't like it much at first, but it's a real grower and is probably their last album to have significant prog influences.
White Spirit aren't prog as such, but it's a classic album and hugely polished and underrated- one of the NWOBHM's best albums but with a strong influence from Rush/Uriah Heep...superlative keyboard work throughout.
As for 'Captain Fantastic'? Well, imo it does have the very best song Elton John ever wrote in 'Someone Saved My Life Tonight' (a perfect song in every way- his career dropped alarmingly from there imo), but I've never been that hot on the rest of the album. It has its moments though, of course. 
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Posted: June 04 2006 at 15:24 |
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The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip
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Posted: June 04 2006 at 15:22 |
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My alternative Top 10 (for today - I'm in a mellow mood):
1. Marillion - Script For a Jester's Tear
2. Gentle Giant - Free Hand
3. Kraftwerk - Kraftwerk
4. Camel - Mirage
5. Radiohead - Amnesiac
6. Steve Hillage - Fish Rising
7. Twelth Night - Fact and Fiction
8. Muse - Absolution
9. Queen - Queen II
10. Genesis - Duke
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Posted: June 04 2006 at 14:27 |
Some of my personal prog classic period favorites that will probibly not be found in the top 10...
Genesis - A Trick of The Tail
Jethro Tull - Songs From the Wood
King Crimson - Beat
Klaatu - Hope
Elton John - Capt. Fantastic and the Brown Dirt Cowboy (I kid you not... some good stuff there)
Yes - The Yes Album
Queen - A Night At The Opera
Judas Priest - Sad Wings of Destiny
Jethro Tull - Minstal in the Gallery
Rush - 2112
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Posted: June 04 2006 at 13:34 |
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nice variation of the old.... what are your top 10 prog albums thread ahahhah...
less than 4 stars yet could/should be in the top 10 huh....
1. Tales From Togographic Oceans.... damn crime that this thing
ISN"T in the top 10 period anyway hahahha. Blows the doors off of half
the Genesis albums sitting in there anyway... a defining album of
prog. Ask the punks as they railed against the pompous nature of
prog.... they had this albums cover pinned to their walls.
the only one really.... most albums if they are below a 4... don't deserve to be top 10 hahahah
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The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip
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Posted: June 04 2006 at 13:34 |
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Can't think of ten but with an average of 4.02 Kansas - Masque is one of my top ten.
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Posted: June 04 2006 at 13:33 |
In my opinion:
1 Space Shanty - Khan
2 Snafu - East of Eden
3 unfolded like staircase - discipline
4 Green Eyed God - Steel Mill
5 it'll all work out in boomland - T2
6 charge - paladin
7 Fish rising - Hillage
8 Arzachel - Arzachel
9 mice & rats in the loft - jean duke de grey
10 mainstream - quiet sun
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Posted: June 04 2006 at 13:22 |
With average rating below 4 stars:
King Crimson - In the Wake of Poseidon
Supertramp - Supertramp
Steve Hackett - Defector
Genesis - And Then There Were Three
Kansas - Kansas
Steve Hackett - Please Don't Touch
Pink Floyd - The Wall .... or Atom Heart Mother
Rush - Caress of Steel
The Moody Blues - Every Good Boy Deserves Favour
Yes - Time and a Word
Uriah Heep - The Magicians Birthday
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Posted: June 04 2006 at 10:33 |
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Jethro Tull: Too Old to Rock and Roll, Too Young to Die
Caravan: For Girls that Grow Plump in the Night
Peter Gabriel II
Pink Floyd: Piper at the Gates of Dawn
Beatles: Rubber Soul
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Posted: June 04 2006 at 10:19 |
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It is certainly true that the three albums that preceded The Wall are more progressive. Much of the compositions on these 3 albums are longer and also most of the shorter ones as Welcome to the machine don't have a mainstream feel about them.Then again I don't believe myself that more progressive automatically equals better.
The Wall has a lot of moments that are not that progressive in itself. Most of he melodies on this album are so good though and the story so interesting (says i who don't care about lyrics too much generally) that i can spin it over and over again without getting bored.
As for Wish you were here, I don't like Welcome to the machine while Have a cigar is just about ok.The rest of the album is sublime. Darkside of the moon is a very good with few flaws, maybe Them or us is somewhat long. Somehow this album has never clicked on me as much as a lot of the rest of Pink floyds output. Animals is the perfect album for me.
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Posted: June 04 2006 at 10:09 |
all italian prog IMO, lots of great bands, lots of excelent musicians that dont have the credit they deserve...
Sud-American prog too
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Posted: June 04 2006 at 09:57 |
billbuckner wrote:
People love to give The Wall bad reviews, and it's a damn shame. One of Floyd's best, IMO.
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Couldn't agree more. I don't think people get it, y'know? Like, they're listening to it as a collection of songs based on one theme instead of listening to it as one person's life story. And they let the almost 80s-ish tone ruin the whole thing for them.
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As for The Wall getting slammed, it really has a few too many duff
tracks to hold up as a whole. Yes, it has some truly great moments
(Comfortably Numb, Run Like Hell), but also some trite (Young Lust) or
annoying after the tenth time (Another Brick in the Wall Pt. 2) tracks.
The trio of albums Floyd released before that were much cohesive, and I
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The tracks are laid out to give a better sense of the insanity/immaturity that the main character is going through. Young Lust is just there to show that Pink is reverting to being a teenage sex-fiend at heart. And it is critical in understanding that Pink's marriage is shot to hell. Another Brick in the Wall Pt. 2 is just there to heighten suspense. Hey, I never said I liked it, but that's why Pink Floyd put it in there. I just wish the version of 'Empty Spaces' from the movie would have been put on the album instead of that miserable little pathetic watered-down version. I guess time-constraints made this not feasible.
Edited by DeepPhreeze - June 04 2006 at 10:03
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Posted: June 04 2006 at 09:36 |
I've always found "The Wall" a great album, but what Teaflax said above is true after a fashion. The three albums that precede it are undoubtedly much more successful on a merely musical level - "The Wall", though, has an undeniable dramatic element, and it is quite intriguing as a story. As to "Drama", the only thing that pulls it down are Trevor Horn's vocals, which are much weaker that Jon Anderson's. Musically, thouth, it ranks among Yes's absolute best - "Machine Messiah" is a masterpiece. Camel's first is also quite a good album, though a bit derivative in comparison to others by the band. As to my own choices, I won't be drawing up a list. However, I'd just like to mention a few of my personal non-top-100 favourites: Traffic - John Barleycorn Must Die, The Low Spark of High-Heeled Boys King Crimson - In the Wake of Poseidon Rush - Counterparts Hatfield and the North - both albums (where the heck is The Rotters' Club? It used to be in the Top 100.. that's a scandal! )
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