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imoeng

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Topic: Dream Theater vs Tool
Posted: June 17 2006 at 08:18

^ why is that? his name is already amazing.. heheheh

horza

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Posted: June 17 2006 at 08:14

Dream Theater wrote:

I voted for the best band

So is it a name change for you then

Originally posted by darkshade:

Calling Mike Portnoy a bad drummer is like calling Stephen Hawking an idiot.

horza

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Posted: June 17 2006 at 08:13

oliverstoned wrote:

It's like to choose between the plague and the cholera!

Tut Tut

Originally posted by darkshade:

Calling Mike Portnoy a bad drummer is like calling Stephen Hawking an idiot.

horza

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Posted: June 17 2006 at 08:04

I'd pick Tool - challenges and entertains me more. DT not bad though

Originally posted by darkshade:

Calling Mike Portnoy a bad drummer is like calling Stephen Hawking an idiot.

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Posted: June 17 2006 at 07:58

Not a big fan of Long Island, or anything that comes out of it. TOOL all the way!!!!!!!!

What is prog rock ?

It is music that does progress. Progressive music takes a riff, turns it inside out, plays it upside down and the other way around, and explores its potential.

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Posted: June 17 2006 at 02:07

Aspiring hope wrote:

Serguilloche wrote:

Dream Theater without a doubt, there is no contest.

Greater songs, more entertaining musicians.

Tool are just really annoying, I feel like punching that poseur who sings for them.

To consider your value for entertainment, in remonstrance for quality, within progressive bands' appreciation, I think the so-called "poseur" - whose identidy, uniquely imbedded with the group's coexistence, probably gets you off since he fails to appeal to what casts appreciation in his divergence from the average spectacle (rumours tend to imply his name is Maynard James Keenan), - wouldn't be the only one to reciprocate your thought, as even DT or any other valuable musician would come to advert/punchback about how he/she's quality isn't measured through the category of "circus artistry", hyperbolicly speaking. Perhaps I'm cathing an erroneous conception of your phrases' intention and I apologize if so, but that exuded barren views of musical importance, since, beyond your egregious subjectivity to define Tool, their originally crafted countenance, of consistently unwavering "artistic" integrity, defies premature auditions for the precociously critic ear, as to see what lies beneath more than meets the eye takes auditive sensibility and patiently placid sagacity, not just an overwhelmed feel contracted upon hearing instruments reach their highest grounds of impressive skill, which, although might prove useful in a guitar-virtuoso band, isn't sufficient towards prog or any less conspicuous flairs, in rock itself.

    I bet you sat down with a thesaurus for 30 minutes to makeyou sound intelligent.

    On another note, it would make you look like a better writer to split it into paragraphs. Also, it would make it much easier to read.

    I choose Dream Theater because they are the band that made me fall in love with prog. Ta Ta for now, see you later, and all that jazz.

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Time-Machinist View Drop Down

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Posted: June 16 2006 at 21:49

nicoguitar wrote:

Absolutely TOOL THEATER

Or Dream Tool?

What is you D.T. BTW?

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Posted: June 16 2006 at 21:43

Tough choice...I've been on sort of a Tool tangent recently, just haven't bought 10,000 Days and all....but I have to vote for Dream Theater because they practically got me into the progressive scene. It depends on how I'm feeling, but I do enjoy both bands very much. I am, however, more familiar with Dream Theater's entire discography.

imoeng

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Posted: June 16 2006 at 20:15

its weird that Dream Theater is winning but just few ppl said "DREAM THEATER!!!" or something like that...

or Tool will chase??

DualXP

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Posted: June 16 2006 at 19:10

Tool is the only band that constantly gives me goosebumps....so argue musical technicality all you want...but the goosebumps is enough for me

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Posted: June 16 2006 at 18:34

nicoguitar wrote:

Absolutely TOOL THEATER

Of course!

Close, but Tool for me, since I've liked their music since I was a wee lad. (Really!)

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Posted: June 16 2006 at 18:12

verry good question...i am placing my vote on now...so im going with tool

scenes from a memory is one of my fav prog cd's but i think they have been getting a little pop for me and james labrie is getting a little to emo

on the oposited end tool have had three consecutive quality albume aneima, lateralus, and 10,00 days...so ake me 2 years ago...id say DT, but now i say tool

If you choose not to decide you still have made a choice.

Epitath

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Posted: June 16 2006 at 17:29

Mhm Tough one. Vote goes with Tool though!

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Posted: June 16 2006 at 14:19

Absolutely TOOL THEATER

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Posted: June 16 2006 at 05:21

Dream Theater is a very ground breaking band while Tool is not as significante or good.

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Posted: June 16 2006 at 05:01

TOOL!

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Posted: June 16 2006 at 01:47

I cant help why everyone always feels the need to fight over who's opinion is the right one. But then again let me express mine: Im not exactly old now (16) but when I was a lot younger Dream Theatre was exrtremely appealing to me, their musicianship was amazing and that made them into my favorite band for quite some time. I own all their albums.... BUT... around the time I entered high school a friend of mine burned me the album Aenima, and i remembered listening to it, and thinking stinkfist was a decent radio friendly rockish song, and i never could really get into anything past that.

Then one night I listened to the next track Eulogy, and i just happened to be in the right frame of mind to ingest what i was about to LISTEN to. you cannot hear it, you must listen. And by the song's end my life was forever changed. Obviously to this point I have been a huge tool fan as i would probably consider them my favorite band. And while I still cant help but have respect for Dream Theatre I could live without them, I could not on the other hand live without Tool.

Both bands have made progress throughout their careers. Dream Theater have always seemed to be better at pushing the envelop when it comes to phsyical ability. Tool has done that too in a much diferent way. For instance people do not realize just how amazing some of Adam Jones' solos have been. I have heard some people who can do a decent emulation of John Petrucci style shredding, but Ive never heard anyone who can make a note sustain naturally like Jones' does in the song 10,000 days. There are many other examples but you get the idea.

In the bass department ive always found Justin Chancellor to be quite a force, he is technically nowhere near the guy from DT (he's name escapes me, momentarily) but he makes uop for and surpasses this with his creativity.

Vocally, I respect the opera style vocals but I honestly cant stand them. And when LaBrie attempts the lower type growling thing i just feel like he should be embarassed for it. Keenan has come a long way as a singer, but Lyrically there is just no competition at all, Thats undeniably Tool by a long shot.

ah yes, the drums, time to make someone hate me im sure. Dont get me wrong Mike Portnoy is a technically an incredible drummer, BUT, Danny Carrey is untouchable, I feel his technical ability surpasses that of Portnoy. But when it comes to the are of creativity and expression, Portnoy is nowhere in the same ballpark, but thios is by no means an insult, because no one is really.

Ultimately I find Tool appealing in that they continue to dig deepeer into their hearts and minds to challenge themselves and their listeners. However I know a lot of people just absolutely hate tool or just havent had that moment yet where it all just clicks, I know some people are too hung up on their foregone conclusions to even want to. But my advice to anyone who seeks art with depth to not give up on Tool.

oh yes, and my vote went to Tool

Zargus

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