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valravennz
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Topic: Remembering Pink Floyd Posted: May 21 2006 at 22:43 |
Not THE greatest band of all times - just one of the greatest!! and one of the influences of psychedelia!
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Mr. Krinkle
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Posted: May 21 2006 at 16:23 |
one of the greatest bands of all times
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Posted: May 21 2006 at 11:19 |
DeepPhreeze wrote:
Pink Floyd won't die. It just won't.
Over the years, Pink Floyd has attracted generation after generation of progressive rock listeners. When people think of Progressive Rock, they think of Genesis, Pink Floyd, and RUSH. Pink Floyd is so popular still that just about every prog listener started off at Pink Floyd.
And while Led Zeppelin will be remembered as 'those hard-rock pioneers who made songs that were all more or less the same', Pink Floyd will be remembered as 'those guys who were bold enough to produce an album on which each song was from a different time and place".
People who listen to Pink Floyd's works are usually struck by the sheer variety in styles/sounds, and the well-placed experimental bits that just barely made their music glittery or glamorous.
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So true. To me they will always be the greatest prog band because they're the first I started listening to (a special thanks to my dad for showing me this awesome music). They won't be remembered as the greatest band ever. Led Zep or Rolling Stones or Beatles will get that title. They won't be remembered as the greatest psychedelic band either because this side is known mostly in the prog circles only. I think that in the end they'll be remembered for The Wall and probably Dark Side of the Moon. Songs from these albums got so much airplay that everyone "knows" Pink Floyd. If you make a thread on any other forum asking what is your favorite prog rock band, more than half will say Pink Floyd. The sad part is that those people have only listened to Money or Another Brick In The Wall Pt.2
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Posted: May 21 2006 at 10:41 |
Of course they experimented and you seem to know that yourself, otherwise you might have mentioned John Paul Jones ....
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it is obvious that you simply adore PF, I don't want to spoil your
feelings for them by quoting critics who say, that given todays musical
and technical standards the experimental music of PF sounds more or
less like a violin sonata from the 19th century played on a
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Ah, but when Led Zeppelin 'experimented' it was limited within their classic-rock/hard-rock roots. Led Zeppelin never played around with jazz, or anything ritzy like 'Money'; they never made any tracks that were cold and desolate like 'Welcome To The Machine'; they never had songs that were cruel and ironic, such as 'Have a Cigar'. Led Zep were the pompous arrogant hard-rockers of the 70s who had no regard for 'social rites'. Pink Floyd has always been, and always will be, the prime example of art-rock meeting psychedelic/space rock tinged with a little style from all around the world.
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Posted: May 21 2006 at 05:57 |
DeepPhreeze wrote:
Bonham rarely used different drum kits, Page only used acoustics and Gibsons/Les Paul with light distortion, the vocal styles weren't ever different...
I mean, crap man, they never really EXPERIMENTED.
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Of course they experimented and you seem to know that yourself, otherwise you might have mentioned John Paul Jones .... As it is obvious that you simply adore PF, I don't want to spoil your feelings for them by quoting critics who say, that given todays musical and technical standards the experimental music of PF sounds more or less like a violin sonata from the 19th century played on a hammond-organ. Mind you, I really enjoy listening to PF, but still I doubt that in 1000 years they will be remembered as the best band in the world - by then, maybe an Iraqui folk-group will be the next big thing.
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Posted: May 20 2006 at 14:25 |
From the mainstream-audience they will probably not be rememered as psychedelic band, since they are mostly well known for their three biggest and most successful albums DSOTM, WYWH and TW. They will for sure remain as one of the biggest and most influential bands of all times in one breath with The Beatles, The Rolling Stones, Queen and Led Zeppelin.
To the prog-audience they will remembered as the chameleon of the scene, the band which changed constantly over the years and never stagnated in their process in making incredible, unique albums. I think for Pink Floyd should be created a new sub-genre: UNIVERSAL PROG - they are the only prog band who were approachable for a worldwide audience (and I mean all kinds of people). 
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Posted: May 20 2006 at 13:45 |
Guzzman wrote:
DeepPhreeze wrote:
And while Led Zeppelin will be remembered as 'those hard-rock pioneers who made songs that were all more or less the same'
| Please go and listen to their albums before making such a statement! Is "Carouselambra" the same as "Whole Lotta Love"? Is "Achilles Last Stand" similar to "Communication Breakdown"? What about "Rock and Roll" and "Kashmir"? Pink Floyd were without a doubt very influential to Psychedelic Rock, that's all one can say.
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Bonham rarely used different drum kits, Page only used acoustics and Gibsons/Les Paul with light distortion, the vocal styles weren't ever different... I mean, crap man, they never really EXPERIMENTED.
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Posted: May 20 2006 at 08:47 |
lunaticviolist wrote:
The band that made The Wall.
Can't agree. I believe if you ask Mr(s) (wo)Man-in-the-street then [assuming they have heard the name at all] they will remember them as Dark Side Of The Moon and/or Another Brick In The Wall Pt 2.
The Floyd aren't really remembered
as a psychedelic or progressive group by the general public.
Agreed. I believe most will think of them vaguely just as a rock band, though some might associate them with Prog, especially perhaps older people. But certainly not psych - let's face it, they were only psych to begin with, well before they hit the big 1 with DSOTM.
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Posted: May 20 2006 at 08:27 |
DeepPhreeze wrote:
And while Led Zeppelin will be remembered as 'those hard-rock pioneers who made songs that were all more or less the same'
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Please go and listen to their albums before making such a statement! Is "Carouselambra" the same as "Whole Lotta Love"? Is "Achilles Last Stand" similar to "Communication Breakdown"? What about "Rock and Roll" and "Kashmir"? Pink Floyd were without a doubt very influential to Psychedelic Rock, that's all one can say.
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Posted: May 20 2006 at 02:20 |
If i would live then, i would be senile
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Posted: May 20 2006 at 02:10 |
Itīs very simple, but with The Pink Floyd Sound of 67, the Psychedellia movement started.
Candy and a current bun...Arnold Layne...See emily play...It would be so nice...Apples and Oranges...Point me at the Sky...Flaming...The Gnome...
Thatīs revolution!
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Posted: May 20 2006 at 00:33 |
Floyd; just another band.
A good band but there are lots of good bands.
Influential? A lot of bands are.
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Posted: May 20 2006 at 00:29 |
In general music history reference, it will probably be most influential psychedelic band. The more thorough histories will be kind. It's not as if they were a relatively unknown, that influenced more popular artists (such as The Velvet Underground, Big Star, or 13th Floor Elevators). They were one of the biggest selling bands of all time.
I also look at the difference in the way they, and other bands, have been treated in my lifetime. When I was a kid, Pink Floyd was "drug music," and Led Zeppelin was "devil music." Now the names of these bands are spoken in reverence with the likes of Elvis and The Beatles.
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Posted: May 20 2006 at 00:18 |
Tomodachi wrote:
Being Pink Floyd my all time favourite band, I voted the first option with very little objectivity ... but I think Beatles or Rolling Stones or Led Zep will be regarded as the greatest band of all times because they are much more popular.
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But... those bands didn't write music that is absolutely timeless. Pink Floyd is about the human experience itself. The other bands you mentioned are all about love, or doing drugs, or quitting your job, or something like that. Hardly about weighty themes; Pink Floyd never made a 'lighthearted' song beyond the year 1971.
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Posted: May 20 2006 at 00:08 |
FragileDT wrote:
memowakeman wrote:
The Most Influential Psy band | I second that. |
I'll take a seat in that boat.
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Posted: May 19 2006 at 23:36 |
memowakeman wrote:
The Most Influential Psy band |
I second that.
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Posted: May 19 2006 at 22:31 |
The Most Influential Psy band
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Posted: May 19 2006 at 22:07 |
The greatest band of all times for sure ^^
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Posted: May 19 2006 at 21:14 |
Being Pink Floyd my all time favourite band, I voted the first option with very little objectivity  ... but I think Beatles or Rolling Stones or Led Zep will be regarded as the greatest band of all times because they are much more popular.
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