KRAUT ROCK

Ikarus are GREAT!!

Necronomicon is good, the album Tips Sum Sjaodifuafjlsdj has a unique air about it.  It reminds me of Uriah Heep for the hardrock/prog approach, Cirith Ungol for the raw cult feeling, and Bathory for its epic style.  It has a great metal apocalyptic theme.  I never expect to here an album like it, but I don't expect it is for everybody.

Other: Necronomicon

here we go again...

There's atleast three experts with different opinons on who and what is Krautrock in this discussion. I'm no expert, and there is a lot of german prog I haven't heard yet.

I get that Novalis falls out of the genre, being (very good) copycats of english symphonic.

But if Kraut cannot sound like Can and not rock, or Amon Düül II and lean towards psychedelic experimentation, or Faust (that made the composition the term is taken from?) because they are avant electronic? 

Can Krautrock rock, or not?

Is Cluster Kraut? I always thought they were, but they don't really rock either. I also  thought Tangerine Dream OHR years were.

Sometimes using strict rules for a genre just doesn't work. When you have genres like Kraut, Canterbury, Scandinavian or progg (Sweden) or Italianprog, there will always be a combination of how it sounds, and assosiation by geography. 

The pre Tago Mago album Ege Bamyasi is my favorite by Can. I Thought it was a krautrock classic.

Can's 'Mother Sky' really rocks, doesn't it? And when Radiohead's Kid A was new, there was a lot of talk about them being inspired by Can, Faust, Neu! and Krautrock in general.

GÄA most be the most original band on the list

very misleading POLL IMO!
this is like a list of the best 2nd rate bands from Germany, the famous KRAUTROCK DAYS(69-72) the ones the english speaking media keep trying to get us to swallow. you may want to look towards Annexus Quam, Michael Rother, Kraan, Schicke-Fuhrs&Froeling, Aera,etc and away from Faust(avant electronics), Novalis(english copycats) and Amon Duul 2(psychedelic experimentation). Go for the stuff that the germans listened too!

About the only thing worth listening to off that list is:
Dzyan - Electronic Silence(good)
Ash Ra Temple - first couple(Ashra, much better!)
Grobschnitt - Solar Music Live
Neu! - 75(try the best of Michael Rother)
Mythos - Dreamlab(OK)
Can - Tago Mago and the next 2(Holger Czukay's On the Way to the Peak of Normal, much better!)

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oh well, we sold them David Hasselhof!
    

Edited by DallasBryan - May 18 2006 at 20:06

Certif1ed wrote: eugene wrote: Thanks for your explanation, Certif1ed, about difference between Can and Krautrock. Sounds reasonable to me.  I've had really enough of Can already, but always interested to learn something new. And Krautrock, as subgenre, looks so much better without Can. If only we could exclude Faust somehow from Krautrock, then I would gladly announce Krautrock amongst my favourite prog subgenres.     And I also like your opening statement: "I'm not into classifying...". It made me smile.     You're welcome Actually, you'll be pleased to hear that I don't really hear Faust as Krautrock either - their "style" is closer to Can's than, say, ADII. I like Faust - and unlike Can (who I also like very much), they do rock, but the general approach they seem to have to music is through developing soundscapes - more akin to Tangerine Dream (who again, I don't hear as Krautrock). Unless there are swathes of other Krautrock bands that I haven't heard who work in soundscapes rather than use rock structures almost straight out of late 1960's psychedelia, then I would suggest that these three are moved out of Krautrock.

Edited by eugene - May 18 2006 at 18:30

eugene wrote: Thanks for your explanation, Certif1ed, about difference between Can and Krautrock. Sounds reasonable to me.  I've had really enough of Can already, but always interested to learn something new. And Krautrock, as subgenre, looks so much better without Can. If only we could exclude Faust somehow from Krautrock, then I would gladly announce Krautrock amongst my favourite prog subgenres.     And I also like your opening statement: "I'm not into classifying...". It made me smile.

You're welcome

Actually, you'll be pleased to hear that I don't really hear Faust as Krautrock either - their "style" is closer to Can's than, say, ADII.

I like Faust - and unlike Can (who I also like very much), they do rock, but the general approach they seem to have to music is through developing soundscapes - more akin to Tangerine Dream (who again, I don't hear as Krautrock).

Unless there are swathes of other Krautrock bands that I haven't heard who work in soundscapes rather than use rock structures almost straight out of late 1960's psychedelia, then I would suggest that these three are moved out of Krautrock.

Thanks for your explanation, Certif1ed, about difference between Can and Krautrock.