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Trickster F. 
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 Topic: Best Prog-Metal band?
Posted: May 26 2006 at 16:01 |
Well, then it would possible to call any innovative group listed on PA "Post-something". "Same instrumentation with more experimentation" is not a way to describe it. Many groups have copied Neurisican and they are not experimental in any way as their arrangements and structure are derived from Neurisican. On the other hand, you have groups like Sculptured, which inserted unusual instrumentation into the Metal scene together with a Melodic Death Metal sound, but nobody will call them Post-Metal because they don't sound like Neurisican groups.
Basically, Post-XYZ(remember?  )is a genre that is so poorly called when it comes to the description of its aeathetics that it should have been called something else. Much like Progressive Rock, Indie and... IDM.
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: May 26 2006 at 15:47 |
 xtopher wrote:
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
Opeth aren't Death Metal. Not even on Orchid ... and certainly not on the newer albums. In my book they're an oddity somewhere between Symphonic Prog Metal and Post Metal. If it wasn't for the growling and the heavy use of double bass drum rhythms, I'm sure that nobody would even think of putting them anywhere near Death or Kreator. |
Hey Mike, what's your definition of "Post Metal"? Is this the stuff my goth friends listen to, or is it the stuff my emo friends listen to? Or...what?
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Post Metal is similar to Post Rock. Isis, Pelican, Cult of Luna ... and lately I've also been applying the term "Post" to many more genres. It essentially means that artists leave a certain genre behind ... you still hear traces of the genre in the music, and they're using the instruments that are typical for the genre, but there is much experimentation going on.
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Badabec
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Posted: May 26 2006 at 15:02 |
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Opeth...
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Peace Frog
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Posted: May 23 2006 at 12:05 |
Modern metal bores the hell out of me. But Tool and Opeth are great. They seem to have actual meaning behind their music, not to mention they are excellent bands who keep metal alive (especially in one amazing solo in Deliverance by Opeth, at 8:15-8:40 to be specific).
Dream Theater would be a decent band if they weren't so DAMN CONTRIVED.
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xtopher
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Posted: May 23 2006 at 04:38 |
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
Opeth aren't Death Metal. Not even on Orchid ... and certainly not on the newer albums. In my book they're an oddity somewhere between Symphonic Prog Metal and Post Metal. If it wasn't for the growling and the heavy use of double bass drum rhythms, I'm sure that nobody would even think of putting them anywhere near Death or Kreator. |
Hey Mike, what's your definition of "Post Metal"? Is this the stuff my goth friends listen to, or is it the stuff my emo friends listen to? Or...what?
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xtopher
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Posted: May 23 2006 at 04:35 |
HONORABLE MENTION:
Kamelot
Ayreon
Symphony X
Fates Warning
Queensr˙che
RUNNERS UP:
Vanden Plas
Opeth
Pain of Salvation Riverside WINNER: Dream Theater  Just can't beat 'em... quality with every release. A polarizing band, to be sure, but worthy of all the praise they get. Hey, this is a good poll! This genre's gotten deep! Besides the artists I listed above, I'm only familiar with Tool on this list... um... sorry Tool fans. I've been trying for a long time to get back into Tool, all to no avail... It's not that I don't like their stuff; it's just not quite my cup o' tea, I guess...
Edited by xtopher - May 23 2006 at 04:36
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Forgotten Son
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Posted: May 23 2006 at 03:58 |
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Of those options Ayreon followed by Riverise. Threshold are up there with them, though.
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valravennz
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Posted: May 22 2006 at 23:35 |
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Ayreon - the most inventive prog metal group out there at this time!!
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"Music is the Wine that fills the cup of Silence"
- Robert Fripp
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KansasRushDream
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Posted: May 22 2006 at 23:03 |
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I went with Ayreon because they are my second favorite and DT is killing everyone anyways so they don't need my support. lol I think DT should be put into Early DT and Late DT by the way because they are totally different with either Moore or Rudess.
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imoeng
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Posted: May 19 2006 at 07:16 |
Dream Theater all the way, followed by Opeth IMO..
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ANDREW
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Posted: May 15 2006 at 09:13 |
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Dream Theater
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Dalkaen
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Posted: May 14 2006 at 21:22 |
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Oh, Ayreon is my favorite from this list, no question. The Human Equation and Into the Electric Castle are both masterpieces.
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MusicForSpeedin
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Posted: May 14 2006 at 20:43 |
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Queensryche, Dream Theater, and I have always been a fan of savatage.
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billbuckner
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Posted: May 14 2006 at 20:28 |
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Queensryche. Just for Mindcrime, though they definitly fall on the "Metal" side of the prog-metal scale.
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Dr4Wazo
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Posted: May 12 2006 at 21:52 |
Dream Theater defenitly! 
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The Miracle
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Posted: May 12 2006 at 20:59 |
Valarius wrote:
Dream Theater. |
News flash! 
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Valarius
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Posted: May 12 2006 at 20:14 |
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Dream Theater.
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chamberry
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Posted: May 12 2006 at 19:26 |
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It seems that I have to get Anathema and Meshuggah since the praising in this thread.
I guess I'll vote for Dream Theater but all of those bands that I heard are nice too.
MAudlin of the Well are worth the recognition.
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coffeeintheface
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Posted: May 12 2006 at 18:44 |
Bj-1 wrote:
Meshuggah, DT and SX are my favorites. I'll go with Meshuggah though. |
I see you bought some Tangerine Dream albums lately. I salute you, good sir 
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lunaticviolist
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Posted: May 12 2006 at 16:14 |
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I like Opeth and Tool.
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