Analog Or Digital

Digital is superior?!!

DeepPhreeze wrote: But I can definitely hear the difference between digital and analog. Take 'Wish You Were Here' for instance. On vinyl, the drums are represented fairly. The sound is in no way 'sharp' or 'brash'. On CD or MP3, I have to turn it off because it sounds so... pixellated. Yes. It sounds digitized and it's the equivalent of having a pixellated JPEG.

Not in actual terms; MP3 is like a pixellated JPEG but a CD is like a bitmap. And to extend a metaphor rather too far, FLAC is like a PNG..!


I need to use the nerd emoticon but it's not there

MikeEnRegalia wrote:   That's assuming that they don't damage their ears ... but in reality, with concerts/disco/walkman, you can be sure that most people who do these things can not hear anything above 18khz. And from 30 and upward: 16khz tops.

Thanks, you really improved my mood, Mike!

DeepPhreeze wrote: For me, since I have almost super-human hearing, I can pick out little tiny details in music most people cannot.

...i wondered how long it would take mike and oliver to lock horns on this subject!! i use analogue and digital so i will sit firmly on the fence and say it's all down to personal taste..!!

You really need a big sl***!!

Keep on ruining the site with your bad bands which ar enot prog at all!

"Why do you always have to post the pictures of these "devices? I'm sure that they look great and impressive ... but the impact on the sound is surely not worth the cost."

Consolate yourself as you can.

"My biggest points are:

    * The records weren't made for systems like that. They were made for any system - big or small. IF there really was such a huge difference between top-end systems and bottom-end systems, I'm sure that you could buy such systems in regular stores. But they don't even offer these brands ... that clearly shows that there is no market. And that they're scared of offering these systems in an open way, like setting one up in the store and allowing you to listen to it before you buy."

Indeed, big systems reveals that most CD are bad -especially in rock- and these days most CD rock releases are bumped in order to give a false low and dynamic for Mr Everybody bad system. Fortunatly, there are a few good ones, even in rock.

    "* Most new releases are on CD only ... why would the musicians do that, if it really sounds like crap?"

Really a poor argument. They don't have the choice!
And most don't know, moreover.

But i think you don't need high end hifi to listen to trash metal, like you.

    No, the difference is not in the device's appearence and this is not snobism, but a quest for the absolute sound. And yes, it's infinite, cause there'll always be a better system indeed.

But, once you have try good tubes amps, excellent sources (both analog and big digital), preamps, power     amps, good speakers of course; experienced the enhancement due to excellent cables, power optimization and vib'cancelling, it's like a (hard) drug, cause each time you upgrade, you re-discover your fav records, hearing things you never heard on pieces you listened to hundreds of times...   here's the magic of high end audio...





Very musical french speakers (JM Reynaud Concorde)




   
    
    
PS: And yes, Musical fidelity integrated amps are not bad, this is a good brand moreover. Magnat speakers are not as good as their sub ( i have one BTW) but that's not too bad. But simply put these two elements together is not enough to have a good or even decent system. Ther's much more to do!

Edited by oliverstoned - April 21 2006 at 02:42

Viajero Astral wrote: What about the DVD-Audio and the  SACD ?

"Cold and lifeless"