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MikeEnRegalia 
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Posted: April 18 2006 at 04:00 |
 The Miracle wrote:
It is indeed the closest album to Scenes, but that doesn't mean they're similar. Each of their albums is unique as a snowflake. |
So there are no similar snowflakes? One might say that all snowflakes are (somewhat) similar, as they all have a six-fold symmetric. Then again one might say that there are no similar snowflakes - they're all unique.
I'm somewhat in the middle.
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: April 18 2006 at 03:53 |
 Is the German language really that different from the English language? Surely Scenes contains some songs which are darker and maybe even more heavy than 6DOIT disc 2 ... but that doesn't mean that they're not similar.
Similar doesn't equal "Identical"!
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Posted: April 17 2006 at 19:48 |
THEY' RE NOT REALLY SIMILAR:
- "6DOIT" is more symphonic, orchestral, melodic... 
- "SCENES" is darker, and maybe more heavy...
BUT THEY ARE 2 GREAT ALBUMS!!! 
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Posted: April 17 2006 at 19:16 |
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Not simular, scenes is harder and darker.
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AtLossForWords
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Posted: April 17 2006 at 19:00 |
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I don't think these two discs are similar. Scences from a memory doesn't have the same emphasis of melody and orchestration that Six Degrees II does. Six Degrees II is a softer, orchestrated, more melodic endeavour. Scenes has much more virtuosity and a bluesier overtone.
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Posted: April 17 2006 at 18:12 |
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"These two albums are not really similar"
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The Miracle
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Posted: April 17 2006 at 18:08 |
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It is indeed the closest album to Scenes, but that doesn't mean they're similar. Each of their albums is unique as a snowflake.
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: April 17 2006 at 17:52 |
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For one, Mike, 6DoIT is so vastly more orchestrated and lush than SFAM, that it almost feels more like a Symphonic Prog album than a Prog Metal album. I can't say that for SFAM. |
Yes, in that respect 6DOIT disc 2 seems like an improved version of Scenes. But it is still much more similar to Scenes than to any other DT album ... it appears to me like they went into the studio and said "let's continue what we started with Scenes - just make it another story, more symphonic (read: classical) and more compact".
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Posted: April 17 2006 at 17:21 |
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For one, Mike, 6DoIT is so vastly more orchestrated and lush than SFAM, that it almost feels more like a Symphonic Prog album than a Prog Metal album. I can't say that for SFAM.
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Man Made God
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Posted: April 17 2006 at 17:20 |
These two albums are quite similar
At first, I wanted to vote 'not similar', but after I read the topic, and the explanation:
| If you look at the entire DT discography ... I simply can't
understand how these two discs are not similar. Of course 6DOIT disc 2
is more symphonic, especially the overture. But the key sections of
the 6 "degrees" are really much like the main themes from Scenes in
structure and composition.
What if I put my question this way: "Which other DT album is most similar to Scenes From a Memory?" |
Yes, they are the 2 albums within the DT discography which bear the most resemblance (this isn't a correct sentence... is it?  ).
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: April 17 2006 at 17:18 |
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Listening to 6DOIT disc 2 reminds me of Scenes quite often. Not in the overture, but - like I said above - the key sections, how the sections are connected, how dynamics are implemented ... all very different from any other DT album except for those two.
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Posted: April 17 2006 at 17:13 |
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
Moatilliatta wrote:
I don't think they are noticeably similar. They share some similarities, yes, but none too blatent or distasteful. |
What's "blatant" and "distasteful" got to do with "similar"?
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Well, I probably chose the wrong words for the topic. The similarities aren't blatant in that you would not listen to Six Degrees and think to yourself "this sounds very much like Scenes" or vice versa. And I was kind of expanding on the thought by saying, though there might be some similarities between the two it's not done in such a way that makes it stale or less interesting because it's repeating the same formulas.
So I suppose "blatant" was the right word, but "distasteful" was not.
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: April 17 2006 at 17:07 |
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It's too difficult to put to words ... but I stand by my vote. I can't understand how anyone could not group these two discs together when looking at similarities in the Dream Theater discography.
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Posted: April 17 2006 at 16:16 |
Dr4Wazo wrote:
I totally disagree with anyone who voted 'similar'. Too me Metropolis
pt2 is real disaster and 6 Degres is almost a masterpiece! For the
similarities now; The riffs (all differents), the progression trough
the songs is totally different even the way the album sounds (the
mixing and everything) that is different! I hate Metropolis pt2 and 6
Degrees could easely be my second DT fav album, right after "Images
& Words".
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 I'm almost the complete opposite of you, except I don't hate 6DOIT, it's just one of my least favourite DT albums.
I personally don't see too many similarities... Mike, what specifically are you referring to?
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Dr4Wazo
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Posted: April 17 2006 at 16:13 |
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I totally disagree with anyone who voted 'similar'. Too me Metropolis
pt2 is real disaster and 6 Degres is almost a masterpiece! For the
similarities now; The riffs (all differents), the progression trough
the songs is totally different even the way the album sounds (the
mixing and everything) that is different! I hate Metropolis pt2 and 6
Degrees could easely be my second DT fav album, right after "Images
& Words".
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Posted: April 17 2006 at 10:58 |
Not similar
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Posted: April 17 2006 at 09:39 |
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
If you look at the entire DT discography ... I simply can't understand how these two discs are not similar. Of course 6DOIT disc 2 is more symphonic, especially the overture. But the key sections of the 6 "degrees" are really much like the main themes from Scenes in structure and composition.
What if I put my question this way: "Which other DT album is most similar to Scenes From a Memory?"
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Well, yeah, if you put it that way...
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: April 17 2006 at 09:33 |
If you look at the entire DT discography ... I simply can't understand how these two discs are not similar. Of course 6DOIT disc 2 is more symphonic, especially the overture. But the key sections of the 6 "degrees" are really much like the main themes from Scenes in structure and composition.
What if I put my question this way: "Which other DT album is most similar to Scenes From a Memory?"
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Posted: April 17 2006 at 00:45 |
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Mostly, no. Apart from "The Dance of Eternity" and "The War Inside My Head" being a bit similar and "Overture/Strange Deja Vu" capturing the feel of 6DoIT as a whole, almost nothing is similar enough.
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: April 16 2006 at 20:30 |
Moatilliatta wrote:
I don't think they are noticeably similar. They share some similarities, yes, but none too blatent or distasteful. |
What's "blatant" and "distasteful" got to do with "similar"?
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