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    Posted: April 07 2006 at 05:56
Originally posted by Peter Rideout Peter Rideout wrote:

Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

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Actually what really bugs me is that most of the Cd version of this album have paintbrushed-out the spaceship/UFO, that the gard/soldier was looking at on the out the other side of the gatefold

ShockedYeah -- now that you mention it, I used to have the vinyl (now I have it on CD), and I remember that UFO too! Let's march on the legislature and DEMAND justice for old album covers! Burn! Destroy! Loot! Angry 

(Er, sorry! Been watching too much French news!) Embarrassed

Anyway, ST, if that's all that "really bugs" you, you're either very, very lucky, or very, very shallow....Ermm

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It is the principle of leaving an oeuvre the way it was created not being respected that bugs me!! the original oeuvre should not be altered or tampered with , I am completely adament on this!!! I have no problems with remastering or bonus tracks as long as the original work is there untampered with. remastering>>> yes but re-mixing >>>NO

I mage Yes's TFTO without the Chichen Itza great pyramid, Tull's TAAB without its St Cleve Chronicles   or Genesis's Foxtrot without the Red-dressed Foxhead lady>> how can we say the ouvre is still intact ? how about Da Vinci's Mona Lisa with tht enigmatic smile wiped from her face?

It will not ruin my life, but does get me angry when cheap copy of products are marketed by this lousy consumer society

 
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Points: 9669 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 06 2006 at 08:31
Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Actually what really bugs me is that most of the Cd version of this album have paintbrushed-out the spaceship/UFO, that the gard/soldier was looking at on the out the other side of the gatefold

ShockedYeah -- now that you mention it, I used to have the vinyl (now I have it on CD), and I remember that UFO too! Let's march on the legislature and DEMAND justice for old album covers! Burn! Destroy! Loot! Angry 

(Er, sorry! Been watching too much French news!) Embarrassed

Anyway, ST, if that's all that "really bugs" you, you're either very, very lucky, or very, very shallow....Ermm

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Points: 1242 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 06 2006 at 06:58

Pilgrimage and their fourth album are also very good.

I also like Live dates too
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The question is which will get to the Top 10 first - Argus or Dark Matter, which is rising up the charts steadily and has reached 63 so far.
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Actually what really bugs me is that most of the Cd version of this album have paintbrushed-out the spaceship/UFO, that the gard/soldier was looking at on the out the other side of the gatefold
let's just stay above the moral melee
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Originally posted by rockandrail rockandrail wrote:

One of my all time favourite band (as long as the Powell-Turner guitar duet was in). Saw them in concert at their very early beginning, in 1970, at the Brussels Woluwe Shopping center. (Yes there was a -brief- time when shopping malls were organizing rock concerts). The same day at the same place, I also could enjoy Pete Brown and Piblokto and a local glory, Jengiz Khan.

And by the way, did George Lucas got inspired by Argus's sleeve to create Darth Vader's helmet?

Ermm I very much doubt it -- that's a real, historical Greek-type helmet, as far as I can tell.

I imagine Lucas and/or his costume designers would have been more familiar with museum artifacts, than an English cult R&R band.

Ancient Greek Full size Argeian helmet

Trojan full size helmet

 

Argus Panoptes

The all seeing. A man with many eyes. Early accounts say he had four eyes, later a hundred. There are many accounts of his parentage. He was in a number of adventures: He killed a bull ravaging Arcadia. He killed a satyr for stealing cattle. He killed Echidna. He avenged the death of Apis.

Argus was killed by Hermes while he guarded Io for Hera

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Sometimes, in Greek mythology, Argus is described as a hundred-eyed monster, who could let some eyes sleep, while others were awake. Thus, he was an excellent watchman, and hence the watchful warrior on the Wishbone Ash Argus album jacket.



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Points: 3323 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 04 2006 at 23:30
Aera(germany) first album Human est is instrumental and captures a few Wishbonish riffs but also employs much sax, flute and violin. Top album from the 70's, very underrated as was the second album Hand and Fuss.
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Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

Originally posted by daz2112 daz2112 wrote:

Long may the Ash Reign!! Mind you to me Wishbone Ash is'nt all about Argus!!!


Says one who has "Darth Argus" as an avatar.




Nice one!!!        
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One of my all time favourite band (as long as the Powell-Turner guitar duet was in). Saw them in concert at their very early beginning, in 1970, at the Brussels Woluwe Shopping center. (Yes there was a -brief- time when shopping malls were organizing rock concerts). The same day at the same place, I also could enjoy Pete Brown and Piblokto and a local glory, Jengiz Khan.

And by the way, did George Lucas got inspired by Argus's sleeve to create Darth Vader's helmet?
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Points: 5851 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 04 2006 at 04:28
Certainly that if in England in 1972 "Argus" beat Jehtro Tull and Deep Purple...
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Points: 21137 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 03 2006 at 07:55

Originally posted by daz2112 daz2112 wrote:

Long may the Ash Reign!! Mind you to me Wishbone Ash is'nt all about Argus!!!

Says one who has "Darth Argus" as an avatar.



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Originally posted by avestin avestin wrote:

5/4/06 - top 100

20/4/06 - top 50

17/5/06 - top 30

2/6/06 - 28th place

The site's algorithm is already programmed to make the appropriate changes at each date and move the album in the right spot.

If there is any other album you would like to change their places, please let us know.
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Points: 967 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 03 2006 at 05:42
Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

Originally posted by Tony Fisher Tony Fisher wrote:

Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

love the album, though



Good God! We finally agree on something!

April's fool that was

Normal service is resumed, eh?
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Originally posted by Tony Fisher Tony Fisher wrote:

Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

love the album, though



Good God! We finally agree on something!

April's fool that was
let's just stay above the moral melee
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Originally posted by Tony Fisher Tony Fisher wrote:

I wonder how long it will take for this to reach the top 20 in the ratings? I predict the end of May, but maybe I'm biased because it's one of my top 5 favourite albums.

Anyone else care to hazard a guess?

end of april??????
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Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

love the album, though



Good God! We finally agree on something!
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Long may the Ash Reign!! Mind you to me Wishbone Ash is'nt all about Argus!!!
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Points: 20239 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 01 2006 at 11:44

not reach the top 100

love the album, though
let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter
keep our sand-castle virtues
content to be a doer
as well as a thinker,
prefer lifting our pen
rather than un-sheath our sword
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Points: 27958 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 31 2006 at 19:15
I saw them in Swindon on Tuesday which was enjoyable.Good band but hardly progressive.
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