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Dr. Occulator 
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Posted: March 28 2006 at 22:24 |
Bowie is Art-Rock, not prog.
Guess I gotta learn to have some patience and write more than one liners. 
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timothy leary
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Posted: March 28 2006 at 13:55 |
Freaky looking dude who sang about prog.nah, that ain`t prog .It`s a
space oddity.I do know this band 'maybe' .Are they progressive. No
.Maybe= No.People try to dig up these old dinosaurs when there is so
many new bands committed to prog rock who don`t get there just due.
Maybe?! 
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Dr Know
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Posted: March 28 2006 at 13:15 |
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But most of Bowie´s work is Prog. I think he is the strongest candidate for the Archives. Also Deep Purple Mark 1 was a Prog band.
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Kid-A
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Posted: March 28 2006 at 10:40 |
Yes, Progressive is completely unrelated to prog. David Bowie was not prog. Absolutely no way.
Why do people keep wanting people who blatantley aren't prog to be in the progarchives?
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Dr Know
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Posted: March 27 2006 at 18:42 |
Being Progressive doesn´t mean it´s Prog and not being Progressive doesn´t mean it isn´t Prog.
It all doesn´t really add up at the end of the day
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micky
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Posted: March 27 2006 at 15:52 |
 Dr Know wrote:
I think what Jimbo means is this...
An Example..
Van Halen´s Eruption was very progressive for the time, introducing two hand tapping but Van Halen aren´t a Progressive band.
Am I correct? |
good example... another one.... The Who... find me a group more...
progressive. Tommy for instance...sure rock operas weren't invented by
the Who. Perfected maybe hahahhah.. in any case... progressive with a
capital P but I don't think anyone would call them a prog group...
art-rock perhaps though... hmmm....
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Dr Know
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Posted: March 27 2006 at 14:40 |
I think what Jimbo means is this...
An Example..
Van Halen´s Eruption was very progressive for the time, introducing two hand tapping but Van Halen aren´t a Progressive band.
Am I correct?
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Jimbo
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Posted: March 27 2006 at 12:36 |
ANDREW wrote:
Jimbo wrote:
Yeah, he's progressive, that's for
sure, just not prog. These two are completely different things. I love
Bowie, but I have to say No as well. |
Sorry Jimbo, but i didn't understand what you said: "he's progressive, that's for sure, just not prog": what does it means??? |
What I mean by this, is that you can be progressive without actually
being progressive rock. Punk was very progressive when it first
appeared, because it introduced some new musical elements. It was
something that no one had heard before. It's the same with Bowie.
Progressive rock then again, is a genre, which has certain rules etc.
Therefore it's possible to be a part of the progressive rock scene
without actually doing anything "progressive" or new. For example The
Flower Kings, Spock's Beard etc.
I'm not good at explaining things, I hope you understand what I'm saying.
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Zac M
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Posted: March 26 2006 at 23:43 |
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Maybe it's just me, but he seems to fit the category of Prog-related perfectly...
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"Art is not imitation, nor is it something manufactured according to the wishes of instinct or good taste. It is a process of expression."
-Merleau-Ponty
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Witchwoodhermit
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Posted: March 26 2006 at 23:23 |
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Just finished listening to LOW for the first time. Bowie needs to be in prog archives.
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Guillermo
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Posted: March 26 2006 at 22:38 |
Vompatti wrote:
Rick Wakeman played on Space Oddity, so that makes Bowie prog-related, right?  |
Yes. He also played in albums recorded by BlacK Sabbath and Cat Stevens. Maybe they could be included in PA too!
My vote for Bowie was "No". Like Roxy Music, his image/music was more Glam Rock,not Prog.
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ANDREW
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Posted: March 26 2006 at 19:50 |
Jimbo wrote:
Yeah, he's progressive, that's for sure, just not prog. These two are completely different things. I love Bowie, but I have to say No as well. |
Sorry Jimbo, but i didn't understand what you said: "he's progressive, that's for sure, just not prog": what does it means???
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el böthy
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Posted: March 26 2006 at 19:42 |
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[QUOTE=Jimbo]Yeah, he's progressive, that's for sure, just not prog. These two are
completely different things. I love Bowie, but I have to say No as well.
[/QUOTE
Well said!!!
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ANDREW
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Posted: March 26 2006 at 19:40 |
Do you really guys think that David Bowie played progressive rock or something similar???
Not for me.
Maybe, in "Space Oddity" there are some little prog elements, but he played glam rock!!!
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Bern
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Posted: March 26 2006 at 17:34 |
Dr Know wrote:
So gentlemen, we have all agreed he´s in!
Good |
Exactly
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Dr Know
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Posted: March 26 2006 at 17:06 |
So gentlemen, we have all agreed he´s in!
Good
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micky
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Posted: March 26 2006 at 15:54 |
Snow Dog wrote:
Unfortunately, Bowie has already been rejected by PA. |
that's a shame... but understandable as long as 'the powers that
be' are consistant... if you know what I mean hahahah. Precedent seems
to be established that 'progressive' rock is not prog, thus not to be
included here.
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Vompatti
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Posted: March 26 2006 at 15:26 |
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MAYBE!!!
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Bern
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Posted: March 26 2006 at 15:23 |
YES!!!
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RIP in bossa nova heaven.
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Witchwoodhermit
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Posted: March 26 2006 at 15:19 |
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YES!!!
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