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stan the man
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Topic: Peoples ignorance towards prog Posted: March 23 2006 at 00:23 |
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true as a lobster in a pteredaktyl's underpants.
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stan the man
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Posted: March 23 2006 at 00:18 |
jesperz wrote:
stan the man wrote:
When I was driving home from Chicago 2112 was on and during the part after the Overture when it gets quiet my mom said this is my favourite part of the song because there is no noise. 
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That is a very nice one from ur mom...
Well, my friends did say about Geddy Lee is a gay cos of his squeeky voice, James LaBrie's voices causing ear Fatique and stuff like that.
When i am playing something like 2112 by Rush or Change Of seasons by Dream Theater, they will probably go like "HUH!? The song haven't end?"
Worse, Discipline by King Crimson... I received feedback like "what is that man? It is so annoying!" Lol... That makes me never play my type of music in camps or whatever... They even could say that PROG ROCK IS AS BORING AS CLASSICAL MUSIC!!!!
What they like to listen are Eminem, 50 Cents or Green day, Chemical Romance.. They really cause me ear Fatique and a bad migrane! But hey, i didn't critisize their music, only tell them to lower down the volume... Due to the fact that they love screaming music.. That is something I dun get it...
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the funny thing is that my mom actually likes some prog. She isn't keen on Pink Floyd but she likes some Yes and Genesis. She says she respects Rush as musicians but just cant stand Geddy's voice. Strange I love the voice. Especially his 70s wailing
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true as a lobster in a pteredaktyl's underpants.
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Ultaigh
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Posted: March 23 2006 at 00:05 |
I played "21st Century Schizoid Man" to one of my friends and he
replied, "What is this? It sounds like whales having sex!
Is that bagpipes?"
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jesperz
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Posted: March 22 2006 at 23:50 |
stan the man wrote:
When I was driving home from Chicago 2112 was on and during the part after the Overture when it gets quiet my mom said this is my favourite part of the song because there is no noise.  |
That is a very nice one from ur mom... Well, my friends did say about Geddy Lee is a gay cos of his squeeky voice, James LaBrie's voices causing ear Fatique and stuff like that. When i am playing something like 2112 by Rush or Change Of seasons by Dream Theater, they will probably go like "HUH!? The song haven't end?" Worse, Discipline by King Crimson... I received feedback like "what is that man? It is so annoying!" Lol... That makes me never play my type of music in camps or whatever... They even could say that PROG ROCK IS AS BORING AS CLASSICAL MUSIC!!!! What they like to listen are Eminem, 50 Cents or Green day, Chemical Romance.. They really cause me ear Fatique and a bad migrane! But hey, i didn't critisize their music, only tell them to lower down the volume... Due to the fact that they love screaming music.. That is something I dun get it... Z'
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stan the man
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Posted: March 22 2006 at 23:17 |
Aww man when I was in free period during school i was showing one of my friends Pink Floyd with the glory of Echoes when a stupid freshman (you know how freshmen are for all those in high school ) just says o my God that is the most annoying thing i have heard in my life turn that hippie crap off....... &n bsp; &n bsp; He said that while turning on his Toby Keith 
When I was driving home from Chicago 2112 was on and during the part after the Overture when it gets quiet my mom said this is my favourite part of the song because there is no noise. 
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true as a lobster in a pteredaktyl's underpants.
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emersontarkus23
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Posted: March 22 2006 at 22:57 |
Well, I don't think a lot of people are supposed to like prog rock-that's
why we have our own little club, particularly since many prog musicians
have spent their whole lives staying away from pop sensibilities, because
they want to have their OWN persona, unlike anyone else. We fans are the
same. We huddle in our own tiny group and become our own tiny
persona-we also have fun laughing at the people who can't understand
the passion that drives our lives because they don't have patience, or the
right understanding, etc.
As for me, no one I know except my stepdad likes prog rock to the extent
I do. I am 17, and growing up as a teenager in a world of bad pop music, i
don't know anyone who likes prog rock that much beyond Zeppelin and
maybe a couple albums by Floyd(Dark Side and The Wall). I mean, one
day, in Forum, where we just hang out and talk, my teacher suggested
that I put on my LP of Tarkus, which I had bought that day. All the
students were asking "WHAT IS THAT"?!!? openmouthed. I was
embarrassed, and turned it off. It's sad how no one I know likes prog.
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¢¾Old¢¾Hen¢¾
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Posted: March 21 2006 at 17:01 |
White Feather wrote:
OK I`m sitting down with some non prog friends and I put on a prog CD (probably not wise) Anyway halfway through the first song I notice them looking at each other then just like that one says "do you take this music seriously ?" I respond "its got some great counterpoint and listened to that Hammond " (I was playing niacin BTW) then without warning I get the lamest response ever , "it sounds like regressive rock honestly kids listen to this crap its such a wank" I couldn`t believe my ears I mean how rude and ignorant is that ?
So whats the worst thing a friend not into prog has ever said to you about your music ? 
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I brought Zep into a dance lesson about two years ago .. I think the other girls brought Green Day .. Lol, they HATED it .. called it a load of rubbish. Now it's fashionable to listen to Zeppelin. Hm. But yeah, I was laughed at too .. one girl said it was like UB40 but worse ...
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el böthy
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Posted: March 21 2006 at 16:13 |
Fede wrote:
Here in Argentina are some people called "rollingas" who like a kind of bands that are fashion and have a similar sound to the Rolling Stones (but toooooo worse) and they're bulls**t.
Some "rollingas" friends of mine, when I put some prog stuff they walk away or say "This is boring!!" or "It's a bulls**t" I can't really understand why.....
| jejeje "rollingas" and the "cumbieros" are the cancer of our musical sociaty!!! jejejee It´s always nice to see argentinians in the forum
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Firepuck
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Posted: March 21 2006 at 09:04 |
ivansfr0st wrote:
I haven't really tried to introduce people to prog, because their tastes in music are quite shallow and I do not expect anyone to understand the whole philosophy of prog without having similar views on music and art in general. Seriously, it goes for literature, films as well as music - people consider to check out only the accessible, popular things. I don't blame them actually.
You can't forget that proggers are ignorant to different things as well.  
-- Ivan
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Exactly what I was saying - don't waste your breath on trying to change people's tastes, it's not worth the effort. I can count on one hand the number of people over the past 30 years I have 'turned on' to prog. While you may not agree with them you can't blame someone for their tastes.
Might as well bang your head against the wall... 
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Trickster F.
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Posted: March 21 2006 at 08:44 |
Cygnus X-1 wrote:
Ah the amount of times me and my friends try to put prog on in our 6th form common room. So far we have had some Jethro Tull: Aqualung, Hymn 43, Cross Eyed Mary, some of Thick As A Brick, all of Close To The Edge, some Supper's Ready and some other Genesis, some King Crimson, quite a bit of floyd and Mostly Autumn and some other Yes. but usualy any song that lasts over 5 mins gets turned off.
The usual comments are:" This is boring..." "This is crap, it's too long." "I could make this on cuebase!" etc etc. basically there are about 7/8 of us who like prog and force it on!
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Heheh... You posted "7/8" and you also have a Rush icon. 
I haven't really tried to introduce people to prog, because their tastes in music are quite shallow and I do not expect anyone to understand the whole philosophy of prog without having similar views on music and art in general. Seriously, it goes for literature, films as well as music - people consider to check out only the accessible, popular things. I don't blame them actually.
You can't forget that proggers are ignorant to different things as well.  
-- Ivan
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luc4fun
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Posted: March 21 2006 at 08:18 |
The Wizard wrote:
One thing I like about prog is that no one knows about it so it's 'cooler' to like (at least for me).  |
I agree!
Its like listening to something you know most of the people cannot understand.You feel like an elect!
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RaphaelT
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Posted: March 21 2006 at 08:03 |
The guy from my year after seeing photo of Yes from Relayer times called Patrick Moraz "hairy ape".
This is good that progarchives exist - a place where we could weep that people don't understand our music .
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yet you still have time!
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Norbert
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Posted: March 21 2006 at 03:03 |
The Wizard wrote:
One thing I like about prog is that no one knows about it so it's 'cooler' to like (at least for me).  |
Yes, it has some charme to like something what other people don't even know.
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The Miracle
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Posted: March 21 2006 at 01:31 |
I just don't play it to my school friends. Some of them do like bands like Rush and Pink Floyd, but that's as far as it goes. More obscure and serious stuff will only get laughet at
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White Feather
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Posted: March 20 2006 at 22:53 |
el böthy wrote:
Firepuck wrote:
While I may not like the music someone else listens to I try never to say anything negative about it and I expect the same re comments about my music. Any comments they do make go in one ear and out the other. I just can't be bothered even acknowledging their remark let alone trying to change their opinion. Guess I'm a true Canadian!
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I do the oposite...I can show my musci, knowing it won´t be liked...but I say something like "well, it seems only smart people like this music"...jejeje and whenever I listen something in the radio with some friends I tend to show what a lot of crap that is..."don´t you realize this woman didn´t wrote the song nor does she care for what she sings...and thouse lyrics!"...jejejee, I like to inform people of how sh*tty their music is...because obviuosly they don´t realize that for themself
jejej guess that makes me a true argentinian..jejeje
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Um , I`m not gonna say that stuff jejejee
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el böthy
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Posted: March 20 2006 at 19:47 |
Firepuck wrote:
While I may not like the music someone else listens to I try never to say anything negative about it and I expect the same re comments about my music. Any comments they do make go in one ear and out the other. I just can't be bothered even acknowledging their remark let alone trying to change their opinion. Guess I'm a true Canadian!
| I do the oposite...I can show my musci, knowing it won´t be liked...but I say something like "well, it seems only smart people like this music"...jejeje and whenever I listen something in the radio with some friends I tend to show what a lot of crap that is..."don´t you realize this woman didn´t wrote the song nor does she care for what she sings...and thouse lyrics!"...jejejee, I like to inform people of how sh*tty their music is...because obviuosly they don´t realize that for themself
jejej guess that makes me a true argentinian..jejeje
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Aaron
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Posted: March 20 2006 at 18:44 |
i tend to not play prog rock around my friends, although back in the day we always used to listen to music and share it with eachother
so i dont have any harsh comments
but i have had friends say it reminds them of video game music, which i can understand with some bands
someone told me that Magma's MDK reminded them of monkeys making music, which i thought was funny, even if only for the alliteration
i only have two people that i can share my music with now, sucks monkey balls
i dont ever expect prog rock to be popular, but i would like it if more people were passionate about it, so i could discuss it with people that aren't on the internet
Aaron
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chamberry
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Posted: March 20 2006 at 18:15 |
I get all kind of "colorful" reactions towards the prog I hear. But I
try not listen to The Mars Volta or Opeth while my parents are around.
My non prog friends are at times curious about the music I play them
but one of them talks alot of sh** about prog but deep inside I know he
likes some of it.
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Dogboy
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Posted: March 20 2006 at 18:13 |
I HAVE HAD ALL MANNER OF COMMENTS OVER THE YEARS - INCLUDING 'A
LOAD OF OLD WANK'
Generally friends have laughed at the lyrics - eg tales from Topographic
Oceans, ridiculed the music eg. diddly diddly rubbish - Il Balletto di Bronzo's
YS and killed themselves laughing at the covers e.g Foxtrot. Personally I
couldn't care less- I would far rather be ridiculed for a few minutes than
suffer a lifetime of liking Simply Red or The Lighthose Family or whatever
dross people oif my age 'like ' to listen to (or have marketed at them.
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Fede
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Posted: March 20 2006 at 17:54 |
Here in Argentina are some people called "rollingas" who like a kind of bands that are fashion and have a similar sound to the Rolling Stones (but toooooo worse) and they're bulls**t.
Some "rollingas" friends of mine, when I put some prog stuff they walk away or say "This is boring!!" or "It's a bulls**t" I can't really understand why.....
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