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Topic: Best Live Epic Drum Solo Posted: March 12 2006 at 02:32 |
Neil Peart in R30 - Das Trommier (or something like that)
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Posted: March 12 2006 at 02:20 |
Peart!
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Posted: March 10 2006 at 10:10 |
I generally hate drums solos (boring, long and breaking the spirit of the moment/concert) but I think of Ginger Baker as a superb drummer.
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marktheshark
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Posted: March 09 2006 at 23:39 |
ken4musiq wrote:
Bern wrote:
Although I admire Bonzo's talent, I always thought his Moby Dick's solos were boring. I guess my vote would go to Neil Peart for all of his solos and not only for O Baterista. |
One thing I respect about Bonzo was the he does these long solos and never hit the rims. He was big as all outdoors but also a very clean drummer (when he was not drunk.) |
Actually you're half wrong! Oh, he hit the rims alright. But for rimshot technique. Bonzo was not the heavy pounder people have brought him out to be. What he would do is keep his snares slightly loose and hit it with a precise angle to produce the rimshot effect.
In the 60's and 70's with primitive amplification on drummers, the rimshot was utilized for maximum impact. Now with all the modern miking of drums, you can just tap the snare and hear it in a football field. Hence why rimshotting has become such a lost art in drumming.
The grand-master of this technique was Gene Krupa. Even over Buddy Rich. Gene was able to make his drums thunder without any mikes at all. Believe me when I say this because I saw him play at a clinic a year before his death in '73 when I was 16.
Baker and Bonham were 2 of the few that really utilized this technique. Oh sure they were miked somewhat, but only to a limited extent. Bruford was always good for it, but these days most drummers just hit as hard as they can not giving a sh*t on the precision on what they're doing.
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marktheshark
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Posted: March 09 2006 at 23:07 |
O Baterista is a great solo, but my biggest criticism is the ridiciously God-awful sound of those DW toms on his new SS Professor set he has there. He may as well play on coffee cans! They're just clanky and hollow sounding. I'll take his old wooden Tama and Ludwigs anyday. With the Vibra-Fibing modifications he had done on those, they were much warmer sounding and with better timbre.
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ken4musiq
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Posted: March 09 2006 at 22:57 |
Bern wrote:
Although I admire Bonzo's talent, I always thought his Moby Dick's solos were boring. I guess my vote would go to Neil Peart for all of his solos and not only for O Baterista. |
One thing I respect about Bonzo was the he does these long solos and never hit the rims. He was big as all outdoors but also a very clean drummer (when he was not drunk.)
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sbrushfan
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Posted: March 09 2006 at 22:43 |
I've said it all before...and I'll say it again...Neil owns!
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dralan
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Posted: March 09 2006 at 20:30 |
Im not a fan of the "epic drum solo" I usually skip over those selections on the poll....
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Posted: March 09 2006 at 08:23 |
Neil Peart especially seeing him play it live!!!Amazing
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ANDREW
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Posted: March 09 2006 at 07:43 |
- Neil Peart - O Baterista / YYZ (from "Exit Stage Left")
- Ian Paice - The Mule
- Ginger Baker - Toad
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Posted: March 08 2006 at 21:26 |
Toad for me ... a monster performance
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Posted: March 08 2006 at 21:22 |
All are great and I never imagined comparing them... but I'll go with O Baterista, simply because the title is in my native language, Portuguese.
BTW, O Baterista means The Drummer!
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marktheshark
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Posted: March 08 2006 at 21:19 |
I finally voted after much thinking and went with Baker's Toad. Ginger was R&R's first soloist. Very influencial and ahead of the game at the time. His double-bass playing blows Peart away. I never thought Peart was all that good on double-bass. Hell, I thought Bonzo did more on a single bass than Peart did on double.
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Posted: March 08 2006 at 20:57 |
I don't really consider O Baterista to be epic. It's a damn good drum solo, mind you, just not epic in comparison to the other choices. An "epic" drum solo would be something like Toad or Moby Dick. But I'll vote for it (even though I really want to vote for Toad for sheer power and raw energy).
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Posted: March 08 2006 at 20:42 |
Peart and O Baterista.
Ginger Baker's Toad is incredible too.
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Posted: March 08 2006 at 20:37 |
for long and epic drum solos Christian Vander of Magma takes the cake. I don't know of anyone else who does 45 minute solos. and they are not boring for a second
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Posted: March 08 2006 at 19:20 |
Although I admire Bonzo's talent, I always thought his Moby Dick's solos were boring. I guess my vote would go to Neil Peart for all of his solos and not only for O Baterista.
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Posted: March 08 2006 at 18:55 |
Mr Ian Paice!!
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Posted: March 08 2006 at 18:43 |
Been a lot of more shorter solos, but these are the only long epics I can think of.
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