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Manunkind 
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Posted: February 09 2006 at 07:56 |
 Publius84 wrote:
Language is not most important.
The most important are feelings. |
But IMO it's almost always easier to convey one's feelings in one's own language. And no offence to anyone here, but singing in English all the time is simply limiting; every language is a music genre of its own.
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Norbert
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Posted: February 09 2006 at 07:47 |
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It depends on many things, but I have sympathy for bands who sing in their native language.
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Zweck
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Posted: February 06 2006 at 10:14 |
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Different languages sound differently, so whatever sounds right for both the lyical subject and music FTW.
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Phil
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Posted: February 06 2006 at 08:48 |
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I think on balance I'd rather hear the band's native language...
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Atkingani
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Posted: February 06 2006 at 08:34 |
Native language!
If a band is aiming the international market the lyrics may be translated to English in the internal folder.
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Prog-jester
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Posted: February 06 2006 at 04:41 |
Thanks for poll NotAProghead I wanted to make the same  Definetely the native one(especially in Italian bands  )
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The Miracle
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Posted: February 05 2006 at 20:03 |
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Native language. The voice is indeed an instrument and I think it's better to writw lyrics in the language that you know the best.
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micky
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Posted: February 05 2006 at 19:32 |
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native language... and sort of surprised so many voted for English. The voice is an instrument as well.
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Moogtron III
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Posted: February 05 2006 at 19:17 |
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I like both, but if there are several versions of an album (for instance PFM and Le Orme did Italian language albums and English versions) I go for the original one.
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Politician
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Posted: February 05 2006 at 18:07 |
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Native language for sure, if the band's command of English is shaky. I can
think of several Italian albums in particular where the shocking English
pronunciation makes the music very difficult to listen to.
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goose
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Posted: February 05 2006 at 17:37 |
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Generally, I'd prefer bands to sing in their native language. As Friede said though, it's very much dependent on the group. I'd add, though, that for folk based music singing in a language foreign to the instruments seems a bit pointless, ultimately.
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Ridge
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Posted: February 05 2006 at 17:09 |
I have no preference for a particular language but if a non english speaking (or singing if you will) band is to sing in english, just like razifa said: get the grammar good (joke!).
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razifa
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Posted: February 05 2006 at 16:52 |
I like lyrics in the native language but it is a fact that I prefer they are in English. The accent is not important for me as long as the grammar is OK...
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Drew
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Posted: February 05 2006 at 16:35 |
sleeper wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
Every band should do as they want. I have no problem with someone singing with an "accent".
I prefer English though, but will listen to any language.
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same here
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Posted: February 05 2006 at 16:30 |
Snow Dog wrote:
Every band should do as they want. I have no problem with someone singing with an "accent".
I prefer English though, but will listen to any language.
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same here
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Posted: February 05 2006 at 09:34 |
Rosescar wrote:
The singer from CAN kicks so much ass when he sings in Japanese. |
If you're referring to Damo Suzuki, he sang in what he referred to as the language of the stone age - a mixture of German, English, Japanese and gibberish. I can't think of any Can song where he sang more than a couple of odd words of Japanese, but I'm not familiar with his more recent work.
Apart from Magma, Sigur Ros and Ruins/Koenji Hyakkei also sing in languages of their own devising, which works extremely well.
PFM's albums are much better in their Italian versions IMO, although I do think that Peter Sinfield did a better job than he's generally credited with writing English lyrics to fot the mood of their music.
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Rosescar
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Posted: February 05 2006 at 08:48 |
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The singer from CAN kicks so much ass when he sings in Japanese.
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Publius84
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Posted: February 05 2006 at 08:35 |
Zenith wrote:
Publius84 wrote:
Language is not most important. The most important are feelings. |
Indeed, you hit the nail there. |
Tnaks man
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Zenith
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Posted: February 05 2006 at 08:33 |
Publius84 wrote:
Language is not most important.
The most important are feelings. |
Indeed, you hit the nail there.
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We're only in it for the music!!!
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Tony Fisher
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Posted: February 05 2006 at 07:58 |
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One of my favourite bands is Runrig (Scottish Celt rockers).
They sing about 60% of their songs in English and 40% in Scots Gaelic. Capercaillie do likewise. I prefer the Gaelic songs as they are singing about Gaelic culture and the language is far more beautiful. I've also learned Gaelic as a result (well enough to get by, anyway).
Horslips also sing songs in Irish Gaelic on some early albums and they sound so right.
But it doesn't matter as long as they do it well and the key is that these bands are all top notch.
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