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    Posted: October 11 2004 at 13:27
Here's the review (copyright allmusic.com):

Reviewby François Couture

Agitation Free's 2nd stands as one of Germany's finest instrumental rock albums of the 1970s and a classic for fans of progressive rock and krautrock. Despite the fact that the group had problems keeping its cohesion at the time, these troubles never affect the music. 2nd presented a daring blend of Krautrock-type extended jams, laid-back attitude and experimentation. The music remains very psychedelic in nature, more early Can than Faust. The presence of acoustic guitars and bouzouki emphazises the easy-going nature of the music, along with Stefan Diez's elegant guitar soloing, while occasional freeform passages keep things on the edge. The opener “First Communication" is pure krautrock and the hardest driving tune. It belongs on every anthology of German rock. Michael Hoenig's synthesizer experiment “Dialogue and Random" provides an interlude before the two-part “Laila" kicks in. The latter juxtaposes prog rock and fusion jazz sections with beautiful audacity. Side B of the original LP is a lot quieter. Birds chirp at the beginning of “In the Silence of the Morning Sunrise" and the pastoral mood carries over to the nine-minute “A Quiet Walk." “Haunted Island" ends with a mid-tempo rock number featuring a recitation of Edgar Allan Poe's “Dreamland." Filled with mellotron and guitar jamming, it has often been hailed as a highlight by prog rock fans who had a hard time digesting the less immediate material, but it's actually weaker than what came before it -- without lessening the appeal of this album.

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Points: 6308 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 11 2004 at 13:07
Sorry my link doesn't works...

So, go to allmusic.com and search for agitation free/second....
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Agitation free/2nd
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REVIEW:

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In fact, Syd Barrett had Love as one of his favourite bands along other great groups like Beatles, Stones, Byrds and The Incredible String Band..

Anyway I would recommend you some of the early Tangerine Dream stuff, especially their first one, "Electronic Meditation".

If we talk new music, then I would recommend the ausumn american group Bigelf! Very Floyd influenced. http://www.bigelf.com
You can´t say no to the beauty and the beast!!
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Points: 4215 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 08 2004 at 12:58

On what part of TDB do you think that David's voice is shot? I don't hear that at all!  I think he sounds marvelous all the way thru it.  Actually after Animals and DSOTM.. this is my favorite FLoyd album.

 
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Originally posted by threefates threefates wrote:

Originally posted by gdub411 gdub411 wrote:

Yeah...lets off out the Wall as Well....chalk those 2 as Roger solos and the other 2 as Gilmour solos

Well maybe AMLOR.. altho it sounds more FLoyd than the other Gilmour solo efforts.  But TDB... sounds truly Floyd to me.  And with Rick and Nick playing on it, and Rick even writing for it,  I don't think it can be called a DG solo album...

Too bad Rick didn't sing on it as well. David's voice is horrible on the Division Bell...it's like his voice is shot and is forced to talk through it instead. Otherwise I would agree it is a stronger effort than AMLOR
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Points: 4215 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 08 2004 at 11:51
Originally posted by gdub411 gdub411 wrote:

Yeah...lets off out the Wall as Well....chalk those 2 as Roger solos and the other 2 as Gilmour solos

Well maybe AMLOR.. altho it sounds more FLoyd than the other Gilmour solo efforts.  But TDB... sounds truly Floyd to me.  And with Rick and Nick playing on it, and Rick even writing for it,  I don't think it can be called a DG solo album...
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Points: 3484 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 08 2004 at 11:31
Originally posted by threefates threefates wrote:

Originally posted by gdub411 gdub411 wrote:

A Momemtary Lapse of Reason and Division Bell sound similiar to Pink Floyd

Yep, definitely a lot more than "The Final Cut" does!!

Yeah...lets off out the Wall as Well....chalk those 2 as Roger solos and the other 2 as Gilmour solos
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Points: 12818 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 08 2004 at 11:23
Originally posted by oliverstoned oliverstoned wrote:

Originally posted by Dick Heath Dick Heath wrote:

Originally posted by oliverstoned oliverstoned wrote:

"A house is not a motel"

great guitar solo, but nothing to do with PF

 

But who can beat the opening lines (for instance,  the juxtapositioning of ugly and beautiful):

The snot has dried upon my pants, it has turned to crystal

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I don't understand

Could you be more explicit, please?

 

 

which bit?
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Points: 4215 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 08 2004 at 11:17

Originally posted by gdub411 gdub411 wrote:

A Momemtary Lapse of Reason and Division Bell sound similiar to Pink Floyd

Yep, definitely a lot more than "The Final Cut" does!!

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A Momemtary Lapse of Reason and Division Bell sound similiar to Pink Floyd
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Love have quite a bit to do with PF - especially the era that is being questioned here.

As I understand it, some of the earliest influences on Floyd were the Byrds, Love and the Rolling Stones, who Barrett was reported as being especially fond of - and the "Scenes" in the U.S. and London cannot have passed them by, despite Gilmour and Waters insistence that they simply played the music they wanted to hear.

It's not hard to see how much the very earliest Floyd music/lyrics were inspired by Love who, despite recent exposure, are unknown to most people - even if they've heard of them, I doubt they'd be able to hum any tunes or quote any lyrics unless they're die-hard Damned fans...

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Points: 6308 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 08 2004 at 08:19
Originally posted by Dick Heath Dick Heath wrote:

Originally posted by oliverstoned oliverstoned wrote:

"A house is not a motel"

great guitar solo, but nothing to do with PF

 

But who can beat the opening lines (for instance,  the juxtapositioning of ugly and beautiful):

The snot has dried upon my pants, it has turned to crystal

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I don't understand

Could you be more explicit, please?
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Originally posted by oliverstoned oliverstoned wrote:

"A house is not a motel"

great guitar solo, but nothing to do with PF

 

But who can beat the opening lines (for instance,  the juxtapositioning of ugly and beautiful):

The snot has dried upon my pants, it has turned to crystal

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"A house is not a motel"

great guitar solo, but nothing to do with PF
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Originally posted by Certif1ed Certif1ed wrote:

 You'll probably hit me on the "obscure" point, but I'd guess there are more people in the world that have heard Pink Floyd than Love. I agree, BTW - it's a terrific album.

 

Probably, but personally I don't think Forever Changes should be obscure.  With Arthur Lee touring the new edition of Love doing Forever Changes live in 2002 and 2003, he made for a lot of new fans of that album - Love  went down a storm at Glastonbury 2003.
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Originally posted by Dick Heath Dick Heath wrote:

Originally posted by Certif1ed Certif1ed wrote:

 Love's "Forever Changes", if you like the more Barrett-influenced style.

Hey Cert

As somebody who reckons that is the best album of the 60's, I have to ask haven't you got that statement ass about face, or more the case: where is the musical connection?

 I could never imagine Arthur Lee and the late Brian Maclean being influenced by Syd Barrett, (who had heard of Floyd on the West Coast in 1966??) - the Byrds is vaguely possibility for influence (Arthur was their roadie). Arthur Lees' lyrics are about the experience of bad trips and racial discrimination, MacLean's lyrics were made for some great love songs.  Not really Syd's territory. And wasn't Forever Changes released before the height of the summer of love - with all that tuning in, drop out, etc.,  Lee had done it all already?

I just wasn't being very clear

I meant the Barrett/Barrett-influenced Floyd, like most of Piper, some of Saucerful and the singles/outtakes that appeared on Relics (or demos). If you're an established Floyd fan looking for bands that are more obscure but similar, then it's reasonable to start off saying that "Forever Changes" sounds a bit like early Floyd - whereas in reality, of course, the reverse is true. You'll probably hit me on the "obscure" point, but I'd guess there are more people in the world that have heard Pink Floyd than Love. I agree, BTW - it's a terrific album.

Of course, then there's stuff like "Interstellar Overdrive" - which is why I mentioned the Duul II, although come to think of it, I probably meant "Phallus Dei" rather than the later "Wolf City".

The Byrds, according to the thesis what I wrote, were the instigators of psychedelic rock, with the landmark track "8 Miles High", so I'd agree that they influenced Lee & co - although maybe the spreading use of LSD also had something to do with it...  

 
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Points: 6308 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 07 2004 at 16:49

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It seems that many old and new prog guitarists love to have Gilmour moments. You can hear his influence in many of the bands that came afterwards.  Except none of them have been able to completely pick up that beautiful wailing that David seems to do so perfectly. In most the bands I've met, the guitarists all seem to be huge fans of Gilmour.  I remember last year having a discussion with Brian Josh from Mostly Autumn on Gilmour for most of the IQ show at Progeny... and last night after the Marillion show, I had a conversation with Steve Rothery about our mutual love for Gilmour... and he was upset David played Wembley last week and he didn't know about it.  You can also hear quite a lot of Gilmour's influence in what Steve Wilson plays...

(Sorry Reed about the name-dropping, but thats just the way it is here... you can call me Petula, if it makes you happy )
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there are constant echoes between NEKTAR and PINK FLOYD
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