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    Posted: July 02 2005 at 08:15
Mikael Åkerfeldt (Opeth)
James Keen Maynard (Tool)
Roger Waters (Pink Floyd)

Mikael is a genious, I especially love one sentence on the song Closure.

"In the rays of the sun I am longing for the Darkness..."

Beautiful.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 22 2005 at 19:29

Daniel Gildenlow most definitely: here are some:

The Perfect Element

Yesterday found him today
Caught him at his last breath
These walls built to stand come-what-may
Lie shattered in the ashes
His skin against this dirty floor
Eyes fixed on the ceiling
He has stretched those chains of sin
Far beyond all feelings
Still, so still...

In his head a thunderous
Cry of desperation
Tearing voices from his past
Scream for his attention
Behind those eyes a world explodes
No one there to save him
All pain that he's been passing on
Answers to his craving
Once more

I will never leave this shame...

Falling beyond the point of no return
Nothing to become and nothing left to burn

Stealing meaning from this child
We took away his reason
His soul put under lock and key
His heart blackened from treason
But if you take from those you fear
Everything they value
You have bred the perfect beast
Drained enough to kill you

Falling beyond the point of no return
Nothing to become and nothing left to burn

Watching unseen untouched bleeding
Empty exposed dying eyes closed

Once he had forests and mountains
That were only his - listening to him
Once he would run through the summer days
Catching memories for ages to come
Now he is dressing this naked floor
With his flesh and blood, and times passes by
His trade of pain might just have lead him
To deal with consequence
For some change as time passes by

I am the waking child
(Lingering, climbing, clinging, clutching
Craving, clawing, hurting, falling down)
I, the wayward son of a mountain lake
(Of icy liquor tears, of a silent Earth)
(Of a rusty lid, of a wingless wind)
(Of an eyeless storm, of fallen gods,
who lost their way)
I set myself on fire
To breed the Perfect Element

Will I ever walk again?

Falling far beyond the point of no return
Nothing to become and nothing left to burn

(This is the end)

Nothing left to say,
The pain will go away
Now you must surely see,
That you are killing me
You are killing me
Now you are killing me
(You must never leave this shame!)
Now you are killing me
(You must never leave this shame!)
Now you are killing me
(You must never leave this shame!)

Is this more than you want?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 22 2005 at 18:23
Originally posted by penguindf12 penguindf12 wrote:

My favorite lyricists:

Roger Waters (realistic, no-frills political lyrics which got me into prog in the first place)

Ian Anderson (social commentary, biting but hidden behind a wall of poetry. sort of like Roger Waters and Jon Anderson mixed)

Jon Anderson (purely poetic, almost impenetrable but beautiful lyrics. hard to figure out what they are on occaision, but when you know what they mean it's better)

Peter Gabriel (less political than Ian's or Roger's stuff, but has a sort of hidden theme...a bit harder to figure out than Ian's, but easier to figure than Jon's)

And that's the top four on my list.

Hurrah!  My top four as well!  My undisputed favorite, though, is Jon.  His lyrics are pretty much impenetrable, but as 3fates said, there is meaning, if you first decipher it.

For example, A seasoned witch (God) could call you from the depths of your disgrace (could "redeem your soul") and rearrange your liver (your liver is a cleansing device) to the solid mental grace (the way he wants it)

Very clever.

 

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 22 2005 at 05:54

An example of Peter Hammill lyrics which always gets me.

This Side of the Looking-Glass

 

 

The stars in the heavens still shine
up above me: 
how lovely they'd seem
if you were with me
but you're gone through the looking-glass
and I am left to pass these nights alone.
         
I'm lost, I'm dumb, I'm blind,
I am drunk with sadness,
sunk by madness,
the wave overwhelms me,
the mirror repels me,
the echo of your laugh
drifts through the looking-glass
and I am alone.
         
No friendship, no comfort, no future, no home,
the past lingers with me:
you're all the love I've ever known
and without you I'm nothing
but empty and silent,
reflecting on all that I've lost.
I let you slip away so soon.
         
Can you hear me? This is my song:
I am dying; you are gone.
         
These words are not enough to save my soul,
they just mock me from the mirror.
I'm cold and I'm yearning,
I've told you I'm burning,
my eyes can't stand the light...
like a stray dog in the night
I'll shuffle off alone.
         
We all make our futures
but I have lost mine;
I'm hoping for a miracle
but finding no sign....
         
The stars in their constellations,
each one just sadly flickers and falls...
without you they mean nothing at all.

To understand these lyrics fully one has to know Hammill had just broken up with his long time lover Alice, and title and lyrics of the song are a play on the title of the 2nd of the Alice books, "Through the Looking Glass and what Alice Found there" by Lewis Carroll.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 22 2005 at 05:32
Originally posted by Dreamer Dreamer wrote:

How can you figure out Yes lyrics? whats this code? you got any tips, cause I've been trying to figure them out for ages.


It's easy once you realise that Jon Anderson is actually an alien.  He's an ambassador from a race whose thought processes are very different from ours. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 22 2005 at 05:30
Originally posted by Syzygy Syzygy wrote:

Unlike a lot of people on here I can't say that many prog lyricists really do it for me. Robert Wyatt and Peter Blegvad both write superb lyrics, but for me most of the best lyricists are outside the prog canon - Leonard Cohen, Nick Cave, Elvis Costello, Morrissey, Shane MacGowan, Dylan and Neil Young all spring to mind. In terms of mainstream prog, Peter Gabriel and Peter Hammill bith write some excellent stuff, more as solo artists than in bands for some reason. Ian Anderson has written some great lyrics as well, although in the early to mid 70s (up to Minstrel...) he had a tendency to over write which could get a bit tiresome. King Crimson, my second favourite prog band after Magma, have consistently had some of the worst lyrics in history supplied by a variety of different but equally trite wordsmiths, which must be some kind of record.

Damo Suzuki of Can and Magma's Christian Vander avoided the lyrics issue by writing in languages they invented themselves, a fine example more recently followed by Sigur Ros and Ruins.

It's rare that I disagree with you on an issue, but I would NOT call Peter Hammill "mainstream prog". His oeuvre is far too varied for that. Examples of him which are definitely NOT mainstream:

Loops and Reels
The Fall of the House of Usher
Sonix
The Appointed Hour (with Roger Eno)
Spur of the Moment (with Guy Evans)
The Union Chapel Concert (with Guy Evans)



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 22 2005 at 05:26
How can you figure out Yes lyrics? whats this code? you got any tips, cause I've been trying to figure them out for ages.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 22 2005 at 04:59
Not prog, but one of my favourites is Martin Walkyier of Skyclad (although he's no longer part of the band).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 22 2005 at 02:51
Originally posted by altered_states altered_states wrote:

And why is peter Gabriel being mentioned in this thread? 3 words;"Shock The Monkey" Hes a joke!!

6 words:

The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 21 2005 at 21:49
Too many repeated names, and no mention of Mikael Akerfeldt and only one mention of Daniel Gildenlow! For shame...I swear prog metal isn't just Dream Theater!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 21 2005 at 21:45
And Zappa dont forget. Maybe hes even the best. Tough call.
Dig me...But don't...Bury me
I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive
Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 21 2005 at 21:44

Roger Waters

Peter Gabrial

Adrain Belew

Ian Anderson

Dig me...But don't...Bury me
I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive
Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 21 2005 at 20:12

Tupac Shakur - his lyrics come from the heart.

Neil Young - reminds me of a candian bob dylan in a way.

Ozzy - He's the prince of f**king darkness.

Not exactly "Prog" but they are great lyricists.

And why is peter Gabriel being mentioned in this thread? 3 words;"Shock The Monkey" Hes a joke!!

 

"It's better to burn out, than to fade away" - Neil Young 



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 29 2005 at 02:44
My favorite is Jon Anderson, and here's an example of why:

Master of Images
Songs cast a light on you
Hark thru dark ties
That tunnel us out of sane existence
In challenge as direct
As eyes see young stars assemble

Master of Light
All pure chance
As exists cross divided
In all encircling mode
Oh closely guided plan
Awaken in our heart

Master of Soul
Set to touch
All impenetrable youth
Ask away
That thought be contact
With all that's clear
Be honest with yourself
There's no doubt no doubt

Master of Time
Setting sail
Over all our lands
And as we look
Forever closer
Shall we now bid
Farewell farewell...

And my second favorite is Peter Gabriel, and here's an example of why:

There is lambswool under my naked feet.
The wool is soft and warm,
-gives off some kind of heat.
A salamander scurries into flame to be destroyed.
Imaginary creatures are trapped in birth on celluloid.
The fleas cling to the golden fleece,
Hoping they'll find peace.
Each thought and gesture are caught in celluloid.
There's no hiding in my memory.
There's no room to void.

The crawlers cover the floor in the red ochre corridor.
For my second sight of people, they've more lifeblood than before.
They're moving. They're moving in time to a heavy wooden door,
Where the needle's eye is winking, closing in on the poor.
The carpet crawlers heed their callers:
"We've got to get in to get out
We've got to get in to get out."

There's only one direction in the faces that I see;
It's upward to the ceiling, where the chambers said to be.
Like the forest fight for sunlight, that takes root in every tree.
They are pulled up by the magnet, believing that they're free.
The carpet crawlers heed their callers:
"We've got to get in to get out
We've got to get in to get out."

Mild mannered supermen are held in kryptonite,
And the wise and foolish virgins giggle with their bodies glowing bright.
Through a door a harvest feast is lit by candlight;
It's the bottom of a staircase that spirals out of sight.
The carpet crawlers heed their callers:
"We've got to get in to get out
We've got to get in to get out."

The porcelain mannikin with shattered skin fears attack.
The eager pack lift up their pitchers- the carry all they lack.
The liquid has congealed, which has seeped out through the crack,
And the tickler takes his stickleback.
The carpet crawlers heed their callers:
"We've got to get in to get out
We've got to get in to get out."
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 29 2005 at 02:31
  • Ian Anderson
  • Jon Anderson
  • Steven Wilson
  • Thom Yorke
  • John Lennon
  • PJ Harvey
  • Patti Smith
  • Joni Mitchell

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 28 2005 at 22:41
Prog is so full of great lyrics, but the ones that really stand head and shoulders above the rest for me are:

Neil Peart
Roger Waters
Pete Sinfield
Peter Gabriel
Ian Anderson
Steven Wilson
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 28 2005 at 22:00
Peter Hammill, Peter Gabrial and Ian Anderson, probably.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 28 2005 at 20:56

Neil Peart

Jon Anderson

Peter Sinfield

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 28 2005 at 19:53

Geoff Mann is my nr. 1. Tracks like We Are Sane and The Collector...

And yeah, Gabriel, Hammill, Reid, I always liked Lake as well... 

And Morrissey, e.g. "The Queen Is Dead"!

Never loved Dylan, by the way...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 28 2005 at 19:53
Sinfield definitely doesn't produce cheesy garbage.... same for Ian Anderson and Jon Anderson
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