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TLZ*
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Topic: Great lyricists Posted: July 02 2005 at 08:15 |
Mikael Åkerfeldt (Opeth)
James Keen Maynard (Tool)
Roger Waters (Pink Floyd)
Mikael is a genious, I especially love one sentence on the song Closure.
"In the rays of the sun I am longing for the Darkness..."
Beautiful.
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"Music is a moral law - it gives wings to the mind, A soul to the universe, Flight to the imagination, A charm to sadness, A life to everything." - Plato
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King of Loss
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Posted: June 22 2005 at 19:29 |
Daniel Gildenlow most definitely: here are some:
The Perfect Element
Yesterday found him today Caught him at his last breath These walls built to stand come-what-may Lie shattered in the ashes His skin against this dirty floor Eyes fixed on the ceiling He has stretched those chains of sin Far beyond all feelings Still, so still...
In his head a thunderous Cry of desperation Tearing voices from his past Scream for his attention Behind those eyes a world explodes No one there to save him All pain that he's been passing on Answers to his craving Once more
I will never leave this shame...
Falling beyond the point of no return Nothing to become and nothing left to burn
Stealing meaning from this child We took away his reason His soul put under lock and key His heart blackened from treason But if you take from those you fear Everything they value You have bred the perfect beast Drained enough to kill you
Falling beyond the point of no return Nothing to become and nothing left to burn
Watching unseen untouched bleeding Empty exposed dying eyes closed
Once he had forests and mountains That were only his - listening to him Once he would run through the summer days Catching memories for ages to come Now he is dressing this naked floor With his flesh and blood, and times passes by His trade of pain might just have lead him To deal with consequence For some change as time passes by
I am the waking child (Lingering, climbing, clinging, clutching Craving, clawing, hurting, falling down) I, the wayward son of a mountain lake (Of icy liquor tears, of a silent Earth) (Of a rusty lid, of a wingless wind) (Of an eyeless storm, of fallen gods, who lost their way) I set myself on fire To breed the Perfect Element
Will I ever walk again?
Falling far beyond the point of no return Nothing to become and nothing left to burn
(This is the end)
Nothing left to say, The pain will go away Now you must surely see, That you are killing me You are killing me Now you are killing me (You must never leave this shame!) Now you are killing me (You must never leave this shame!) Now you are killing me (You must never leave this shame!)
Is this more than you want?
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Syntharachnid
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Posted: June 22 2005 at 18:23 |
penguindf12 wrote:
My favorite lyricists:
Roger Waters (realistic, no-frills political lyrics which got me into prog in the first place)
Ian Anderson (social commentary, biting but hidden behind a wall of poetry. sort of like Roger Waters and Jon Anderson mixed)
Jon Anderson (purely poetic, almost impenetrable but beautiful lyrics. hard to figure out what they are on occaision, but when you know what they mean it's better)
Peter Gabriel (less political than Ian's or Roger's stuff, but has a sort of hidden theme...a bit harder to figure out than Ian's, but easier to figure than Jon's)
And that's the top four on my list.
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Hurrah! My top four as well! My undisputed favorite, though, is Jon. His lyrics are pretty much impenetrable, but as 3fates said, there is meaning, if you first decipher it.
For example, A seasoned witch (God) could call you from the depths of your disgrace (could "redeem your soul") and rearrange your liver (your liver is a cleansing device) to the solid mental grace (the way he wants it)
Very clever.
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BaldFriede
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Posted: June 22 2005 at 05:54 |
An example of Peter Hammill lyrics which always gets me.
This Side of the Looking-Glass |
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The stars in the heavens still shine
up above me:
how lovely they'd seem
if you were with me
but you're gone through the looking-glass
and I am left to pass these nights alone.
I'm lost, I'm dumb, I'm blind,
I am drunk with sadness,
sunk by madness,
the wave overwhelms me,
the mirror repels me,
the echo of your laugh
drifts through the looking-glass
and I am alone.
No friendship, no comfort, no future, no home,
the past lingers with me:
you're all the love I've ever known
and without you I'm nothing
but empty and silent,
reflecting on all that I've lost.
I let you slip away so soon.
Can you hear me? This is my song:
I am dying; you are gone.
These words are not enough to save my soul,
they just mock me from the mirror.
I'm cold and I'm yearning,
I've told you I'm burning,
my eyes can't stand the light...
like a stray dog in the night
I'll shuffle off alone.
We all make our futures
but I have lost mine;
I'm hoping for a miracle
but finding no sign....
The stars in their constellations,
each one just sadly flickers and falls...
without you they mean nothing at all. |
To understand these lyrics fully one has to know Hammill had just broken up with his long time lover Alice, and title and lyrics of the song are a play on the title of the 2nd of the Alice books, "Through the Looking Glass and what Alice Found there" by Lewis Carroll.
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BaldJean and I; I am the one in blue.
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Citanul
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Posted: June 22 2005 at 05:32 |
Dreamer wrote:
How can you figure out Yes lyrics? whats this code? you
got any tips, cause I've been trying to figure them out for
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It's easy once you realise that Jon Anderson is actually an
alien. He's an ambassador from a race whose thought processes are
very different from ours.
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BaldFriede
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Posted: June 22 2005 at 05:30 |
Syzygy wrote:
Unlike a lot of people on here I can't say that many prog lyricists really do it for me. Robert Wyatt and Peter Blegvad both write superb lyrics, but for me most of the best lyricists are outside the prog canon - Leonard Cohen, Nick Cave, Elvis Costello, Morrissey, Shane MacGowan, Dylan and Neil Young all spring to mind. In terms of mainstream prog, Peter Gabriel and Peter Hammill bith write some excellent stuff, more as solo artists than in bands for some reason. Ian Anderson has written some great lyrics as well, although in the early to mid 70s (up to Minstrel...) he had a tendency to over write which could get a bit tiresome. King Crimson, my second favourite prog band after Magma, have consistently had some of the worst lyrics in history supplied by a variety of different but equally trite wordsmiths, which must be some kind of record.
Damo Suzuki of Can and Magma's Christian Vander avoided the lyrics issue by writing in languages they invented themselves, a fine example more recently followed by Sigur Ros and Ruins.
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It's rare that I disagree with you on an issue, but I would NOT call Peter Hammill "mainstream prog". His oeuvre is far too varied for that. Examples of him which are definitely NOT mainstream:
Loops and Reels The Fall of the House of Usher Sonix The Appointed Hour (with Roger Eno) Spur of the Moment (with Guy Evans) The Union Chapel Concert (with Guy Evans)
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BaldJean and I; I am the one in blue.
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Dreamer
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Posted: June 22 2005 at 05:26 |
How can you figure out Yes lyrics? whats this code? you got any tips, cause I've been trying to figure them out for ages.
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Citanul
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Posted: June 22 2005 at 04:59 |
Not prog, but one of my favourites is Martin Walkyier of Skyclad (although he's no longer part of the band).
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Posted: June 22 2005 at 02:51 |
altered_states wrote:
And why is peter Gabriel being mentioned in this thread? 3 words;"Shock The Monkey" Hes a joke!!
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6 words:
The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway.
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FishyMonkey
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Posted: June 21 2005 at 21:49 |
Too many repeated names, and no mention of Mikael Akerfeldt and only
one mention of Daniel Gildenlow! For shame...I swear prog metal isn't
just Dream Theater!
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Man With Hat
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Posted: June 21 2005 at 21:45 |
And Zappa dont forget. Maybe hes even the best. Tough call.
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Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect.
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Man With Hat
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Posted: June 21 2005 at 21:44 |
Roger Waters
Peter Gabrial
Adrain Belew
Ian Anderson
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Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect.
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Posted: June 21 2005 at 20:12 |
Tupac Shakur - his lyrics come from the heart.
Neil Young - reminds me of a candian bob dylan in a way.
Ozzy - He's the prince of f**king darkness.
Not exactly "Prog" but they are great lyricists.
And why is peter Gabriel being mentioned in this thread? 3 words;"Shock The Monkey" Hes a joke!!
"It's better to burn out, than to fade away" - Neil Young
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Cinema
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Posted: April 29 2005 at 02:44 |
My favorite is Jon Anderson, and here's an example of why:
Master of Images
Songs cast a light on you
Hark thru dark ties
That tunnel us out of sane existence
In challenge as direct
As eyes see young stars assemble
Master of Light
All pure chance
As exists cross divided
In all encircling mode
Oh closely guided plan
Awaken in our heart
Master of Soul
Set to touch
All impenetrable youth
Ask away
That thought be contact
With all that's clear
Be honest with yourself
There's no doubt no doubt
Master of Time
Setting sail
Over all our lands
And as we look
Forever closer
Shall we now bid
Farewell farewell...
And my second favorite is Peter Gabriel, and here's an example of why:
There is lambswool under my naked feet.
The wool is soft and warm,
-gives off some kind of heat.
A salamander scurries into flame to be destroyed.
Imaginary creatures are trapped in birth on celluloid.
The fleas cling to the golden fleece,
Hoping they'll find peace.
Each thought and gesture are caught in celluloid.
There's no hiding in my memory.
There's no room to void.
The crawlers cover the floor in the red ochre corridor.
For my second sight of people, they've more lifeblood than before.
They're moving. They're moving in time to a heavy wooden door,
Where the needle's eye is winking, closing in on the poor.
The carpet crawlers heed their callers:
"We've got to get in to get out
We've got to get in to get out."
There's only one direction in the faces that I see;
It's upward to the ceiling, where the chambers said to be.
Like the forest fight for sunlight, that takes root in every tree.
They are pulled up by the magnet, believing that they're free.
The carpet crawlers heed their callers:
"We've got to get in to get out
We've got to get in to get out."
Mild mannered supermen are held in kryptonite,
And the wise and foolish virgins giggle with their bodies glowing bright.
Through a door a harvest feast is lit by candlight;
It's the bottom of a staircase that spirals out of sight.
The carpet crawlers heed their callers:
"We've got to get in to get out
We've got to get in to get out."
The porcelain mannikin with shattered skin fears attack.
The eager pack lift up their pitchers- the carry all they lack.
The liquid has congealed, which has seeped out through the crack,
And the tickler takes his stickleback.
The carpet crawlers heed their callers:
"We've got to get in to get out
We've got to get in to get out."
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valravennz
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Posted: April 29 2005 at 02:31 |
- Ian Anderson
- Jon Anderson
- Steven Wilson
- Thom Yorke
- John Lennon
- PJ Harvey
- Patti Smith
- Joni Mitchell
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"Music is the Wine that fills the cup of Silence"
- Robert Fripp
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Ben2112
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Posted: April 28 2005 at 22:41 |
Prog is so full of great lyrics, but the ones that really stand head and shoulders above the rest for me are:
Neil Peart
Roger Waters
Pete Sinfield
Peter Gabriel
Ian Anderson
Steven Wilson
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illustrated
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Posted: April 28 2005 at 22:00 |
Peter Hammill, Peter Gabrial and Ian Anderson, probably.
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Arsillus
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Posted: April 28 2005 at 20:56 |
Neil Peart
Jon Anderson
Peter Sinfield
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Moogtron III
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Posted: April 28 2005 at 19:53 |
Geoff Mann is my nr. 1. Tracks like We Are Sane and The Collector...
And yeah, Gabriel, Hammill, Reid, I always liked Lake as well...
And Morrissey, e.g. "The Queen Is Dead"!
Never loved Dylan, by the way...
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Yanns
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Posted: April 28 2005 at 19:53 |
Sinfield definitely doesn't produce cheesy garbage.... same for Ian Anderson and Jon Anderson
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