Broadsword 1 album v B’dsword 2 Dbl album

tulls super periods were as follows, no band has this many strong sessions and eras. Keep in mind my album comments in brackets, because I don't rate many of the original albums highly

1970-1974

benefit(only a half decent album) + 4 excellent outtakes=very good year

aqualung(cool album) + 9 mainly excellent outtakes=excellent year

Thick as a brick(excellent album)=excellent year

A passion play(cool album)=very good year

Warchild(only a half decent album) + 9 mainly excellent outtakes=very good year

1977-1982

Songs from the wood(cool album)=very good year

Heavy horses(very good album) + 5 mainly excellent outtakes=excellent year

Stormwatch(cool album) + 3 excellent outtakes=very good year

A(cool album)=very good year

Broadsword(only a half decent album) + 16 mainly very good outtakes=very good year

1991-1999

Catfish rising(only half decent album) + 7 mainly very good outtakes=very good year

Roots to branches(cool album)=very good year

Dotcom(very good album) + 1 very good outtake=excellent year

 

Not even cool sessions such as Stand up, Crest and Minstrel are good enough to match the above sessions

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As for In the land of the grey and pink, I'd add I don't know it's name to that album. It should have been on the original ;)

whats wrong with the caravan remasters? ;)

minstrel shows a lack of ideas, lack of great writing, lack of cleverness. The remaster rates about 7.5/10 because it has summerday sands to boost it

Minstrel drags on lol. Valhalla sound like a broken record, Baker st drags on with the acoustic strumming, ians voice sounds like he has helium in title track. Requeim is a bit slow, One white duck should have been half as long. The album lacks grunt and excitement. The vocals are too thin, the drums and bass aren't heavy. The album is only decent and thankfully the best song Summerday sands was added to the remaster. I'll take stormwatch and A anyday over Minstrel and I think the Stormwatch remaster blows Minstrel away :D. The too old remaster is just as good as Minstrel

Listen to Mark Craneys drumming on A and the live A tour. Pegg is a top bass player, Jobson is very good. Get over the fact that Barlow, Palmer and Evan left the band. The only reason they left is because ian wanted to make a solo album and he hired other musicians. When the word was falsely spread that Tull were recording a new album with new members, those 3 guys wanted out. This is a talented outfit with Ian and Martin in charge. Just like previous Tull. 1977-1982 is just as great as 1970-1974 for Tull. Minstrel and Too old is the weakest moment of the 70s. I'm wondering if I'm at a prog rock or a hard rock site lol

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Andrea Cortese wrote: P.S. I didn't mind this thread would have re-lived so passionately!!!

Andrea

Actually I would consider Stormwatch a bit like I do Strawbs's Bursting At The Seam: the end of an era when most members leave (or get kicked out, whatever) and it is the last album of a classic line-up. Remember that thread???

 A is like Hero & Heroine album the first of a new era with an almost completely new group except for the leader (Anderson and Cousins) and their faire-valoir (Barre and Lambert).

In both cases, I like the previous line-up rather than the new: in both Tull and Strawbs this change of line-up was a clear loss of identity

Sean Trane wrote: Andrea Cortese wrote: Always liked Tull's period 1979-1984. To be honest I like less albums as Crest of a Knave and Catfish Risin', some great tracks apart (Budapest and Rocks on the Road, for instance).>>> BluesRock>> I understand it is not really prog In Storwatch there are the best longer tracks of the folk-trilogy 1977-1979: Dark Ages and Flying Dutchman.>>> two tracks and the rest..... A, in my opinion, is just superb with its great "Black Sunday" and darker feel in the mood of the previous album.>>> I'll give you Black Sunday, but after........ Under Wraps is the most varied, funny, quasi-humoresque album from Tull. The only thing bad is when Ian tries to play drums... >>> Are you sure you are serously talking here I own Walk Into Light too and I like it moderately. I have listened some weeks ago on discovery channel to Fly by Night played live (I don't know what was the show, because the song was the soundtrack of a tv program regarding mount climbing)...I was so shocked because it was incredibly better than the studio one!!! Broadsword is a classic, but more conventional one, because Anderson and Barre seem to return to the gone years but the result is not always convincing. The album is wonderful, btw! Tull never made bad albums>> Objectively (this means in retrospect of their whole career and judging albums against each other both inside Tull discography and the full Prog Archives database and leaving out the fanboy sublectivity) TB&TB is with Storwatch the two albums that can just reach the three stars , if you are in a leniant mood at the moment of rating Just two questions, Andrea Have you ever bought an album you did not like (I mean this happens loads of time with me) ??? and do you actually think every album you own is above average??? (I regularly clean out mine from all the "crap" so I can be happy with mine - my collection will not suffer average albums and therefore will not have any albums ranging from after HH until RTBranches) Peace

Yes, I do! I bought, for example, the Seventh Sojourn from the "magnificient moodies" and I was disappointed!!

I recently bought the first work of Robert Wyatt and I have to say that that kind of prog is not my cup of tea.

All the POP albums I ever bought are money wrongly-spent!!

 

I admit I have exaggerated with some of my first reviews on this site, but the fact is that Tull albums are really great. Let compare their 1979 album with other from the other great band of their time... Stormwatch always seemed to me excellent (even if not a masterpiece, I do agree on that!).

Under Wraps for me is not pop, but is a sort of "prog-pastiche" from the 80s! (apart the opener track). I like to listen to it often! It is fresher than Broadsword (the same goes for A).

Heavy Horses: great album, indeed. Never liked too much Journeyman, though!

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gentletull wrote: the fact that he is knocking "A" makes me laugh :)

Well, I like A ok (mainly cause of Jobson's presense), but it's fairly straightforward if you ask me. By then, they had lost focus and they're music got increasingly more bland if you ask me. It's not a bad album, it's just "ok", three stars at most, but I probably would give it 2.5.