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Poll Question: Which is your favourite JT album between these two?
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    Posted: December 17 2005 at 10:43
Agree ,the best extra track is The witch´s  promise in my opinion.I prefer Stand up especially the live versions of Nothing is easy,Look into the sun,Reasons for waiting or We used to know in the nineteens.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 17 2005 at 06:38
Agree with you on Witch's Promise!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 17 2005 at 05:55

Tough call - I voted for Benefit, if only because nothing on Stand Up quite matches up to To Cry You A Song. Stand Up is a superb album, but the different influences - blues, folk, jazz, classical - hadn't quite been resolved into a coherent musical style, which happened on Benefit and which was then taken to new heights on Aqualung. Having said that, Stand Up is a much more melodic and accessible set.

As for the bonus tracks, I'd say the crucial one is Witch's Promise.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 17 2005 at 05:24
Stand Up, definitely.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 17 2005 at 05:10
Stand Up is Jethro Tull's best album, IMHO.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 17 2005 at 03:16
Stand Up
Dig me...But don't...Bury me
I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive
Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 17 2005 at 03:13
Stand Up is a far superior record IMHO. Quite simply these are some of the finest and in places most poignant songs Ian Anderson has ever written.

The triple salvo of Reason for Waiting, Look Into The Sun and We Used To Know never fail to make me shed a tear...these are really powerful songs.

Of course the prog snobs will look down on this album because of the last vestiges of the bluesy influence in Tulls music but they are all crazy!!

What matters is the melodies and Stand Up is crammed with great great melodies. While I enjoy Benefit, it is grinding and leaden in comparison to Stand Up, lacking the warmth and beauty of that album.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 17 2005 at 03:00
I prefer Stand Up but both are great.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 17 2005 at 02:21

Originally posted by The Miracle The Miracle wrote:

I prefer Benefit. It was my first Tull album, and I always liked it more than Stand Up. The songwriting is better, and as Ivan mentioned above, Stand up is more blues based and isn't that prog, while Benefit is more folk-based and proggier. Both great albums.

It was my first Tull album, a friend took it to my house to a recording session, but he left iyt aside because it was from his brother who left it on his house when he moved, my friend never cared to ask me for it.

Of course I never told him what a gem it was, because he was too happy with his Disco music.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 17 2005 at 02:17

Which of these is your favourite extra track (single) of those important ones of the first years?

Sweet Dream, Teacher, Which's Promise.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 16 2005 at 15:14
I vote for Stand Up. While Benefit is a pretty good listen, Stand Up is better IMO.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 16 2005 at 09:07
My vote goes to "Benefit", as I also don't like the blues influence. I do however like "Stand Up" better then "This Was"
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 15 2005 at 23:54

Stand Up gets my vote, even, as Ivan noted, it is a bit blusey. I don't much like the blues.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 15 2005 at 22:19
I prefer Benefit. It was my first Tull album, and I always liked it more than Stand Up. The songwriting is better, and as Ivan mentioned above, Stand up is more blues based and isn't that prog, while Benefit is more folk-based and proggier. Both great albums.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 15 2005 at 22:16

Benefit is the first Prog Tull album, all the previous were too bluesy for my taste.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 15 2005 at 21:00

I voted Stand Up, though I like both pretty much equally.

I like Stand Up because it is different.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 15 2005 at 20:42
Benefit has a sound the is closer to the sound of the next few albums - Aqualung, TAAB, Passion Play, Minstrel - i prefer this sound, so i think Benefit is better, but Stand Up is still an amazing album.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 15 2005 at 20:11

STAND UP is a folk-rock album, with some jazz and blues moments; it's considered a PROG ROCK album because of the remaking of the classic BOUREE'.

In BENEFIT ( first album for the CHRYSALIS label ), ANDERSON starts changing band's style, from jazz / blues to the new PROGRESSIVE sounds that will be better explained in the next three works.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 15 2005 at 12:22
I think that Stand Up is much, much better. More variety, better songs... Hey, Benefit's good too, but Stand Up is one of the best albums I've ever heard!
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