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Phil 
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 Topic: truth---Peart or Portnoy? - i値l kill you
Posted: December 08 2005 at 04:21 |
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I'm not a huge fan of either band but from what I've heard, I'd vote for Neil Peart.
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R o V e R
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Posted: December 08 2005 at 03:48 |
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peart
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Figglesnout
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Posted: December 07 2005 at 22:10 |
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technicality doesn't determine quality of music and should also not determine quality of a single instrumentalist. Take Jon Theodore for example (The Mars Volta drummer), he isn't all technical, using a fairly small kit, and has amazing inventive fills everywhere. He suits the band perfectly, which is a drummer's primary goal. (I myself am a drummer by the way).
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I'm a reasonable man, get off my case
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King of Loss
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Posted: December 07 2005 at 21:47 |
^ MIke with technicality, that's a first 
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Icepickman
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Posted: December 07 2005 at 21:43 |
 king volta wrote:
peart of course....portnoy manages to be the most unemotional little prick i've ever witnessed on stage, along with every other member of DT minus Myung and sometimes Ruddess (mostly outside of DT for him)...DT is nothing but a technical powerhouse with little to no emotion per song ( ), this comes off as pleasing for about 6 months, then their charm wears off and all you hear is a bunch of notes that make you want to scream...while I appreciate their technical prowess I believe they could be a much better band than they are...Rush on the otherhand had emotion of sorts while not sacrificing technical prowess which comes off as ultimately satisfying. While this has nothing to do with drumming outwardly, indirectly it definately does. Peart was the greater of the two, you have my opinion. |
I agree whole-heartedly
Peart is 10 times better. I respect Mike but he is all Technical no feeling.
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Figglesnout
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Posted: December 07 2005 at 21:39 |
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sorry about being angry earlier, i was pretty pissed about something. no musician that practices makign the art deserves any type of name or stereotype, yet we all have opinions, and in mine peart is the clear victor.
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I'm a reasonable man, get off my case
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rushaholic
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Posted: December 07 2005 at 18:40 |
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You know, both these guys are great drummers. What is all the fuss about?
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rushaholic
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Posted: December 07 2005 at 18:40 |
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Didn't we just have one of these Peart/Portnoy polls?
Peart, of course.
Edited by rushaholic
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Drew
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Posted: December 07 2005 at 18:25 |
loverboy wrote:
vote;
only if you heard
RUSH or
Dreamthetre
otherwise
**** off
who is the daddy drummer?
tell me truth
vote for NIEL PEART
or i'll cut you in the pieces,
eight piece
i warn you allready
or let us know
why do you like perticular drummer?
and dont even talk about other drummer ( palmer or anybody( i like palmer))
then i'll cut you ...
you know ....
i allready warn you....
i warn.....
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Calm down Frenchie-
Peart
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Snow Dog
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Posted: December 07 2005 at 18:06 |
- I've seen DT live and as far as I was aware they didn't lack emotion. Not any less than any other band in paticular anyway. Same for Portnoy and other drummers.
- Neil Peart himself is not emotional when he drums.
- I love Pearts drumming
- I love Portnoys drumming
- At the moment I love Portnoy a bit more.
- Thank you
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foxman
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Posted: December 07 2005 at 17:47 |
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Peart is the master. IMO
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"To seek the sacred river Alph, To walk the caves of ice, To break my fast on honey dew, And drink the milk of paradise..."
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Manunkind
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Posted: December 07 2005 at 17:41 |
king volta wrote:
portnoy manages to be the most unemotional little prick |
... so that would make you an emotional, big prick then.
Not really trying to stir up sh*t here, but I'm sick of people here trying to blow up their egos by calling accomplished musicans names. It's simply pathetic.
And for the record, Peart is the better drummer.
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FragileDT
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Posted: December 07 2005 at 17:32 |
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This poll was done already and I'll go with Peart again. Portnoy is a very
good drummer though. His LTE stuff (like raindance said) is very impressive.
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One likes to believe
In the freedom of music
But glittering prizes
And endless Compromises
Shatter the illusion
Of integrity
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raindance
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Posted: December 07 2005 at 17:26 |
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Still Portnoy for me. Not because of his work with DT but his side projects ie. Liquid Tension Experiment, Transatlantic and in particular his drumming on Neal Morse's albums. Peart uses the same 'fills' much too often for me!
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Ed_The_Dead
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Posted: December 07 2005 at 16:39 |
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rum is yum!!!
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stonebeard
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Posted: December 07 2005 at 16:38 |
I like rum, tara rum tara rum!
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Posted: December 07 2005 at 16:28 |
chopper wrote:
I have but two questions: -
- Why do we need another Peart vs Portnoy poll?
- What the hell is Loverboy on?
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OKAY THEN CLOSE IT
I'M OFF
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Bj-1
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Posted: December 07 2005 at 16:27 |
loverboy wrote:
ed the dead ( you are on the list )
bj 1 ( i'll .............i'm thinking)
i'm gonna kill you both
so run
run like hell
run rabbit run
rum rabbit rum
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You can't kill me..... you're too small!!!!!
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RIO/AVANT/ZEUHL - The best thing you can get with yer pants on!
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Ed_The_Dead
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Posted: December 07 2005 at 16:27 |
king volta wrote:
yes lack of emotion...seeriously, listen to a Dream Theater followed by a TMV album, followed by a Rush album, followed by a Dredg album, followed by almost any other prog band (even freaking Tool, whom I don't much like, has more emotion than DT)...I own EVERY DT album...they just grow so old...i used to be infatuated also...but there is much better stuff out there, not that I don't respect your opinion as it also used to be mine, but DT is lacking for me. |
KK... but I still find a lot of emotion in Their playing... On the other hand TMV or dregd don't do anything for me... Just a matter of taste
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chopper
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Posted: December 07 2005 at 16:23 |
I have but two questions: -
- Why do we need another Peart vs Portnoy poll?
- What the hell is Loverboy on?
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