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    Posted: November 26 2005 at 06:33
Originally posted by AfanSpur AfanSpur wrote:

Architecture in Helsinki ( pop prog)

Cocteau Twins (art rock or prog related)

Fernhill  (Prog Folk)

Absolutely agree with the Cocteau Twins, everything up to and including "Blue bell Knoll" is worthy of inclusion... especially 'victorialand'.  Am interested in why u have nominated 'Architecture...'.  Love them too, but, is pop prog????

I really like this jacket, but the sleeves are much too long.
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I agree, Symbolic is one hell of a prog metal album...
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Roxy Music are already here, either in Art Rock or Prog-Related.
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Originally posted by EL OSO EL OSO wrote:

Please add another vote for IRON MAIDEN and what do you think about DAVID BOWIE?, I think if QUEEN is allowed to be here, wht not ZIGGY STARDUST.

Donīt get me wrong I love QUEEN  but I think BOWIE has more prog elements in his music, if you donīt think so, see the evolution with his music, every album has something different.




Got to agree with Bowie for Hunky Dory and Ziggy Stardust.

Also what about Roxy Music for the first 3 albums and the Welsh Wizards MAN


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Architecture in Helsinki ( pop prog)

Cocteau Twins (art rock or prog related)

Fernhill  (Prog Folk)
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Originally posted by Alagithil Alagithil wrote:

Traffic, definitely, in proto-prog. Or prog-related. Or even prog-folk.

They're in under prog-folk.

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Originally posted by TheProgtologist TheProgtologist wrote:

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Do they have keyboards and make-up ?     Stunning solos and sensitive, complex phrasing ?
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Hi all...

First of all, to the bands already mentioned...

A perfect circle.... possible, i can hear some prog elements in mer de noms, but their follow up (i forgot its name) seemed to be just a repeat performance.

Talking heads... I actually agree.  One of the most proto prog albums i have ever heard is fear of music... and their (or actually David Byrnes) collaboration with brian eno shines thru during their earlier career. (By the way, just bcause Adrian Belew played with them, dosent mean they are prog, although i love his solo stuff)

Iron maiden... Gee i wish this debate would die already... They have no more prog elements than, say Ozzy Ozborne (...and pleeeeeeaaaaaaaase, no one nominate him (am pleading))

David Bowie... Thats a tough one, was he prog, or was he glam and made music for his many images.  Yes, his early stuff was ear candy (Diamond dogs especially)... Hell if so, then under 'space rock' but only if you can separate his early career (from space oddisy to Scary Monsters) from the crud he made in the 80's (he must have ran out of money).

Dead Can Dance... Of course

Now for a suggestion I made b4.

Einsturzende Neubauten - Under Kraut Rock. Pleeeaaasssee

Thanking u in advance. May all wonderments progress (pardon the pun).
I really like this jacket, but the sleeves are much too long.
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Rainbow and Iron Maiden under Prog-Metal

Ian Gillan Band under Jazz-Rock Fusion (they made a couple of great albums in the late '70s, before they changed their name to Gillan and started playing hard rock again)

I also agree with A Perfect Circle (I'm not crazy about "Mer de Noms", but I can recognise its quality and prog influences).

And finally, an outright provocation.... what about Talking Heads? Adrian Belew used to play with them, and they're rather progressive, even if not 'prog'

 
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Glass Harp is played on Aural Moon.  Not that that means that they should be here, but obviously someone thinks they are progish. 

David Bowie's Alladin Sane has quite a few prog elements IMO. 

I think that
Mallard &
White Witch
Should be here as well. 

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I'm not DESPERATE to have this band here...if fact i really couldn't give a stuff...but if bands like Tool and Radiohead here, why not A Perfect Circle? Mer de noms is wonderful.
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The Reverse Engineers.  They sound great and really proggy.  Very similar to Rush, as well.

Their website, with five samples.
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Points: 7374 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 25 2005 at 22:17

King's X

'Nuff said.

 
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Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

Originally posted by EL OSO EL OSO wrote:

Please add another vote for IRON MAIDEN and what do you think about DAVID BOWIE?, I think if QUEEN is allowed to be here, wht not ZIGGY STARDUST.

Donīt get me wrong I love QUEEN  but I think BOWIE has more prog elements in his music, if you donīt think so, see the evolution with his music, every album has something different.

 

And you know Queen II?

 

 

Of course I know QUEEN II, in fact is one of my favourite albums of all times, but QUEEN never made a conceptual album, and when they made their highest point in A NIGHT AT THE OPERA they went down, BOWIE is the the perfect example of evolution because as I said all of his albums show something different, and most of the times better than before.

And have you heard SPACE ODDITTY? 



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Lately I'm becomming mopre interested in some Medieval Gothic bands, I find a lot of points in which this genre blends with Prog, lets face it, Medieval and Gothic are early Classical eras, so why aren't some of them included.

Forgetall the stupid paraphernalia that surrounds Goth, don't worry about the dark clothes and the vampyre stories, face only in the music.

My first three choices are:

  1. Miranda Sex Garden: They blend Celtic Medieval influences with Goth, complex vocal arrangements and a lot of classical (Gothic) influence, as Prog as Renaissance at least.
  2. Medeaeval Baebes: Also with Katharine Blake (From Miranda Sex Garden and 9 more female vocalists), even more oriented towards late Medieval, the best vocal arrangements I ever heard, if thi is not Prog, I wonder what is.
  3. Dead Can Dance: More oriented towards Classical Gothic, dark and atmospheric also very close to symphonic.

Why Symphonic, because the main influence of Symphonic is Classical (Can be Baroque, Classi, Romantic or even Modern) and lets face it, Gothic and Medieval are also Classical sub-genres or eras, so I can't find a problem.

The three bands are included in most Prog sites already, so we will not be taking many risks.

Iván



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THE BEATLES-of course.!

BODKIN-The favorite group of Peter Hammill

WARA-Bolivian Symphonic Prog

CONGRESO-Chilean jazz-folk-Fussion

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