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DEzerov 
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Posted: November 28 2005 at 13:38 |
 nimrodel wrote:
some ELP song has harmonica in it... i dont
remember which one but it was on the late ELP album... and it is
on the Original Bootleg Series From The Manticore Vaults pt3.
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"Paper Blood" from Black Moon. For a while the band had a Greg Lake autographed harmonica available for purchase on line.
Ray Thomas played some sweet harp on "Under Moonshine" on the Moodies' Octave besides on "22.000 Days"...
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The moon is made by some lame cooper and you can see the idiot has no idea about moons at all - Nikolay Gogol
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Posted: November 28 2005 at 13:10 |
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Mats Öberg of the Mats/Morgan Band, apart from doing some phenomenal keyboards, and the usually Stevie Wonder impression on vocals, also does a great harp, as I was reminded this weekend having at last found a copy of their album Trends & Other Diseases.
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Posted: November 28 2005 at 01:31 |
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Don't know if this had been mentioned already, but Archive features a nice little harmonica bit in the introduction of Again (from the album You All Look The Same To Me)
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Posted: November 28 2005 at 00:18 |
i don't think there is harmonica on Vangelis' Ballad (Spiral album), but the keyboards really sound like an harmonica.
just hear the singer:
"ti da....twe do do du do"..."ta da da da da ti!"
HOWEVER, HAVE YOU NOTICED THE HARMONICA IN THE BEGINNING & END OF TANGERINE DREAM 'S "3am At The Border Of The Marsh From Okefenokee" TRACK (stratosfear album)? YEP!
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[HEADPINS - LINE OF FIRE: THE RECORD HAVING THE MOST POWERFUL GUITAR SOUND IN THE WHOLE HISTORY OF MUSIC!>
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Posted: November 26 2005 at 01:55 |
whammer jammer by J. Geils Band 
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Posted: November 25 2005 at 23:39 |
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Someone already mentioned it, but Supertramp do use harmonica. I
can only think of it in School at the moment, but they probably use it
for more than that.
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Posted: November 25 2005 at 22:57 |
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Early J. Geils Band! Yeah, I know, you'll probably going to say that is strict blues. Ok, let's compromise: Progressive blues (Seth Justman did play some mean organ / kybds.).
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Posted: November 25 2005 at 18:34 |
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They aren't prog and I know he has been mentioned before but who plays a harmonica better than John Popper of Blues Traveller?No one that I have ever heard.
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Posted: November 25 2005 at 15:54 |
Geck0 wrote:
Cheers Lucas, I shall do.
Is it normal type playing, or more experimental playing? Harmonicas are limited, I realise, but I've always thought there maybe a way of incorporating it into prog. Multi-layered harmonica, recording it backwards..., I guess these things have been done before.
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I guess multi-layered harmonicas would sound not unlike a harmonium (which essentially is a giant harmonica) and they have been used frequently in prog. Whith Gryphon using them heavely on their first album and Greenslade use them on 'Spyglass Guest'. i think Mike Oldfield uses one as well.
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VanderGraafKommandöh
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Posted: November 25 2005 at 12:30 |
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I have all the Indigo CDs (well, I have one, my brother has the others,
but their at the house at the moment, because I've borrowed them) as
well as the Australian only release. I now also own the Blue
Horizon Sessions too, so I have most of his stuff.
I agree, the Toby Jug, Godalming recordings are better than the
official Blue Horizon live tracks (from Justa Duster album
originally). There's a Man Down There and Fresh Country Jam are
just the best examples of his one man band playing.
I really want to hear experimental harp playing, especially on a prog tune.
Keep the bands who played harmonica coming, it's much appreciated.
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Posted: November 25 2005 at 10:50 |
does anyone have a clue why Krokodil(Switzerland),
which made the best example of progressive rock
using the harmonica as a central instrument, is not
in the ProgArchives? Is it TOO NOT Symphonic
English styled? 
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Posted: November 25 2005 at 10:36 |
Chipiron wrote:
I can only remember the beginning and the end of the album "Crime of the century" (Supertramp) and I'm not even sure. Sorry. |
I'm pretty sure it was on the opening of "School", but I may be wrong - not heard it for years!
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Posted: November 25 2005 at 10:16 |
Geck0 wrote:
Actually, I don't think Bright Lights Big City was played, it was another tune, the name escaped me for the moment. Bright Lights Big City was from another gig, which included Just Like A Fish and Just Like A Treat You and some others and they're on the original Justa Duster album I believe and now on the Blue Horizion Sessions CD. |
I think the three live tracks on offer on Blue Inside, have a slight edge on those found on the Blue Horizon Sessions - there must be 5 or more CDs of Duster Bennett outtakes, demos etc, released by Indigo, although at least one of the later releases looks to be a repackaging and shuffling of tracks from the first 3 albums.
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Posted: November 25 2005 at 06:21 |
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As for pennywhistle, it's featured on Supertramp's (again!) first
album and on Tubular Bells. In both cases it's referred to as a
flageolet. I know that in origin flageolet was a different instrument
from the tin whistle/pennywhistle, now I think the word is used as a
homonym.
As for the cowbell, listen to Procol Harum's Whiskey Train, it's
almost the main instrument.
Supertramp have harmonica on several songs: School from Crime of
the Century, Take the long way home from Breakfast, something
from their first (don't remember the title...) etc.
Tuba was used by Herbie Flowers on Camel's Nude
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Posted: November 25 2005 at 05:52 |
The list of musical instruments that we can use in prog can be very very long
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Frank Zappa,Pink Floyd,Yes,Genesis,Rush,King Crimson,Jethro Tull,E.L.P,Rick Wakeman -They have one similarity- I Love Them all !
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Posted: November 25 2005 at 05:43 |
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Actually, I don't think Bright Lights Big City was played, it was
another tune, the name escaped me for the moment. Bright Lights
Big City was from another gig, which included Just Like A Fish and Just
Like A Treat You and some others and they're on the original Justa
Duster album I believe and now on the Blue Horizion Sessions CD.
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Posted: November 25 2005 at 05:40 |
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As for the harp: Moody Blues's Ray Thomas played a nice solo on "22.000 days" ("Long Distance Voyager").
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"He's a man of the past and one of the present"
PETER HAMMILL
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VanderGraafKommandöh
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Posted: November 25 2005 at 05:37 |
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On my Gov't Mule DVD, one of the guest performers (within the brass
band) is playing a Sousaphone, an interesting sound that thing
makes..., plus it's rather large and looks very uncomfortable.
Tubular Bells - obvious that one. I guess that album had a lot of
instruments on, I cannot remember them all for the moment. I've
also seen the Tubular Bells concert on television, it's a must see for
anyone who hasn't seen it and is curious.
Penny whistle, now that must be very hard to use in prog...
Re Duster Bennett: The live version played at The Toby Jug, Godalming I
believe, yes the one with Bright Lights Big City, It's A Man Down There and Fresh
Country Jam on it. The normal version is Country Jam I
believe..., it's not so manic.
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Posted: November 25 2005 at 05:35 |
Geck0 wrote:
If Duster Bennett is your thing, listen to "Fresh Country Jam", it's amazing. He plays harp whilst playing guitar and high-hat, it's a little thought provoking how he could do all that at once! Also listen out for his versions of "Summertime" by George Gershwin.
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Which version (i.e. which album): the Blue Horizon Sessions or Blue Inside? I played It's Man Down There from Blue Inside, back to back with the Allman Brother's electric version last night - Duster's version is one of three songs on Blue Inside recorded at a Surrey gig in 1969, including Fresh Country Jam and some great reporte with his audience.
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Posted: November 25 2005 at 05:28 |
Geck0 wrote:
The Dead Kennedys use bagpipes, but they're not prog and they're not my thing...
Interesting instruments that maybe able to be used in prog:
Tuba
Sousaphone
Lute
Spoons...
I actually really like the sound of the Glockenspiel and Xylophone and I know King Crimson and Colosseum use them, but have yet to hear anyone else use them as a percussion instrument.
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Taj Mahal on his first double live album had a backing band of 3 tubas - checking out Diving Duck from that gig. Acoustic guitar master Stefan Grossman occasionally used tuba backing many years ago, e.g. Hot Dogs. What did Django Bates use in Earthworks and Loose Tubes which sounded like a tuba, but wasn't (E???? horn?)?
And what of the hurdigurdi - Richard Thompson for a start?
BTW we have already done the harmonium
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