Best F1 driver ever

Thanks Nutter, did he survive the crash as thats the fastetst one that I can think of.

Manunkind wrote: Not exactly F1, but during its 1930s equivalent, there was an Italian driver called Tazio Nuvolari. Those were the days of total German dominance, both in the manufacturers' and drivers' category. Nuvolari was probably the only one who could fight on equal terms with the likes of Bernd Rosemeyer and Rudolf Caracciolla, two amazing drivers in their own right, and he often gave them a run for their money in an underpowered car! He won 64 times in a 30 year career (retired at the age of 60). A true driver's driver and absoultely fearless.

I would have included the likes of Nuvolari, Rosemeyer,Lange and Dick Seamon but that would be a big poll, most people dont know them and I did specify F1. As far as I know Nuvolari was the only one that was capable of draging the Alfa around tracks as fast as a Mercedes or Auto Union, witch were considerably more advanced and faster cars.

BTW Nutter, I'm dont know Breedlove but his name sounds familier, who is he?

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I'm reliabley informed that Fangio was the best

I'd have said Craig Breedlove myself.

Not exactly F1, but during its 1930s equivalent, there was an Italian driver called Tazio Nuvolari. Those were the days of total German dominance, both in the manufacturers' and drivers' category. Nuvolari was probably the only one who could fight on equal terms with the likes of Bernd Rosemeyer and Rudolf Caracciolla, two amazing drivers in their own right, and he often gave them a run for their money in an underpowered car! He won 64 times in a 30 year career (retired at the age of 60). A true driver's driver and absoultely fearless.    

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The only act i can recall of Piquets was when he was tacken out of a GP in the 80s by the Chillian Eleseo Salazar and they had a punch up at the side of the track during the race. This was at Hockenheim in Germany and the cars were aproaching at about 230 Mph (370Kph ish). They were both being stupid but its the only thing Salazar's been rememberd for.

Fantômas wrote: Atkingani wrote: 2. Piquet declared publicly that Senna was gay. This happened by the end of the 80s when gay community was suffering a strong repression due to AIDS spreading. Senna never denied or confirmed his gay orientation paying little attention to Piquet's declaration. Senna showed no prejudice and it helped increase his popularity. This is not true. First, Piquet said that Senna used to act like a gay (viadinho, em bom portugues). Senna said "go ask his ex-girlfriend if I'm gay" (the girl was dating Senna at the time). It was the first time that Piquet didn't know what to do after he got the answer to one of his jokes. Piquet is my idol in the F-1. He's totally crazy...

Thanks, Fantômas, I did not remember Senna's answer but to be precise he did not deny it personally claiming for a third part to confirm or not his "viadice" (gayism) instead.

Atkingani wrote: Trotsky wrote: Atkingani wrote: Many British here shall be surprised but I supported Mansell instead of Piquet. I think both were good drivers but Piquet is a person difficult to swallow. I swear that we Brazilians are not that kind of people. The problems between Mansell and Senna were all restricted to the races nothing personal. It's part of the circus. With Piquet the matter escaped the speedway lines and entered the personal lives of his rivals. It's not part of the circus! I've certainly read that most of these racers were not nice people, or at least not easy to get along with ... certainly I've heard that about Piquet, Senna, Prost and Schumacher ... as  Piquet fan, I'm curious as to what you're referring to, though? Piquet said many awful things spitting his scorn towards his rivals. Some were lost in time but I remember vividly two of them: 1. Piquet said that while he was always escorted by beautiful girls Mansell was always with that 'ugly dragon' (Mansell's wife - and she was not ugly). Mansell answer was very educated saying that his wife helped him when he started racing and he was grateful for it and that he loved her and things like it. 2. Piquet declared publicly that Senna was gay. This happened by the end of the 80s when gay community was suffering a strong repression due to AIDS spreading. Senna never denied or confirmed his gay orientation paying little attention to Piquet's declaration. Senna showed no prejudice and it helped increase his popularity. As long as my memory goes back these are the examples of Piquet's mind.

Yikes!  Class is not a word that comes to mind ... just goes to show that just cos you like the way someone plays sports (or music for that matter ) ... doesn't mean that you'll necessarily admire the person that they are.

Atkingani wrote: Many British here shall be surprised but I supported Mansell instead of Piquet. I think both were good drivers but Piquet is a person difficult to swallow. I swear that we Brazilians are not that kind of people. The problems between Mansell and Senna were all restricted to the races nothing personal. It's part of the circus. With Piquet the matter escaped the speedway lines and entered the personal lives of his rivals. It's not part of the circus!

I've certainly read that most of these racers were not nice people, or at least not easy to get along with ... certainly I've heard that about Piquet, Senna, Prost and Schumacher ... as  Piquet fan, I'm curious as to what you're referring to, though?

Its the competative edge of man and machine

and why are they an ugly invention

Fangio is my second choice, I mean 4 straight titles AFTER he broke his neck in 52, amazing.

After his crash lauda did drive a lot more with his brain and pulled out of that years Japanese GP at Fuji when he thought it was raining to much. This cost him the title though when Hunt finished 3rd but to still be leading the title at that point is impressive.