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Gentle Tull
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Topic: Genesis live albums Posted: November 13 2005 at 11:55 |
Deffinitly Genesis Live. I just wish it were a double album.
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Ricochet
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Posted: November 13 2005 at 01:04 |
At one point I would have voted for Genesis Live...but I nowadays
I don't find the versions of The Return Of The Giant Hogweed or The
Knife better than the original...so my vote changed for Seconds Out...
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NetsNJFan
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Posted: November 13 2005 at 00:12 |
Three Sides Live
In the Cage, Me and Sarah Jane, Turn It On Again, Fountain of Salmacis....
Phil sounds perfect on this album
gets my vote
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chessman
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Posted: November 12 2005 at 20:39 |
Out of the choice given, I have to say Genesis Live. Ironically, I always used to say Seconds Out, but now I believe the older album has the edge. The sound is more up front, the performances are excellent, yet it retains the true 'live' feel. Even though Hackett sounds below his usual standard when playing the solo in 'The Knife' I feel this was done intentionally, so as not to plagiarise too much Anthony Phillips's original version. However, I agree with 'Meurgyls111'. The first three discs of the live archive boxed set are probably the strongest live material they have ever officially released. The whole 'Lamb' is stunning, and done in one take too! Only the odd vocal had to be touched up, Tony Banks says. Amazing. And the live tracks on disc three are stunning, especially 'Supper's Ready' with Gabriel himself singing it! Those tracks are from '73 and should have been on the first Live album. Pity they weren't.
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Zac M
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Posted: November 11 2005 at 20:13 |
I like the Archives Volume One live material (discs 1-most of three)
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M. B. Zapelini
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Posted: November 11 2005 at 05:00 |
I have all those albums, and my favourite is "Second Out". "Genesis Live"'s sound quality is a bit below of the standards, so I cannot choose it.
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TheProgtologist
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Posted: November 10 2005 at 18:32 |
Genesis Live(1973)...those songs sound better on that album than the studio versions.Especially Return of the Giant Hogweed.
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progadicto
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Posted: November 10 2005 at 18:25 |
I voted for "Live", but I really love the version of "In the Cage" on 3sides... really amazing...
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Charles
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Posted: November 10 2005 at 11:07 |
The songs on Genesis Live seem to have more "uummph" than their studio counterparts...
Hackett became my idol with his performances on this album....
Charles
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Mategra
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Posted: November 10 2005 at 10:51 |
All of them are great but they are also flawed.
I voted "TWWW -The Longs", because I think it's the most consistent and the most underrated and perhaps the most interesting one.
"The old medley" (almost 20 minutes!) is fantastic and the closing "Drum Duet" is excellent. Between those two tracks are four of the best post-Abacab songs: "Home by the Sea", "Domino", "Driving the last Spike" and "Fading Lights". Absolutely no weak track. A very good ending of the Collins-era.
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paulindigo
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Posted: November 09 2005 at 11:30 |
Genesis Live. The songs are almost identical to their studio
counterparts (which is excellent feat in itself, given their complexity),
yet they have a genuine live feel. And The Knife benefits from Steve
Hackett's frenzy. I haven't listened to Seconds Out for quite a while, I
think it would rank second along with the excellent Three Sides Live
- I agree with Garbs and Moogtron, In the Cage has a great drive.
The main problem with Seconds Out is the poor sound quality and
bad mixing of Steve's guitar (can anyone confirm that thay were
remixed by Dale Newman?)
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Blacksword
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Posted: November 09 2005 at 10:29 |
Seconds Out..
But 'Genesis Live' is very close behind. Seconds Out gets the vote because of the brilliant versions of Firth of Fifth and Cinema Show, and of course Los Endos. I love the power of the duel drumming against those Taurus bass pedals. Such a great sound!
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Trotsky
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Posted: November 09 2005 at 10:14 |
Genesis Live ... mmmm ... sounds so fresh so alive ... I'd love to get an expanded version ...
Edited by Trotsky
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Posted: November 09 2005 at 09:57 |
Genesis Live for me.
The tracklist is similar in quality to the one on Seconds Out... but
has a better singer. Not to mention an "unaccompanied bass pedal solo
by Michael Rutherford".
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Bj-1
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Posted: November 09 2005 at 09:24 |
Top 3:
- Genesis Live
- Seconds Out
- Three Sides Live
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Snow Dog
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Posted: November 09 2005 at 09:15 |
Seconds Out.........even if just for side 4!
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Moogtron III
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Posted: November 09 2005 at 09:10 |
I'm with you, Garbs, I really like Three Sides Live. It is very energetic. I love the In The Cage medley and Afterglow especially.
I once heard a Genesis concert on the radio from the Duke tour. That one was even better: they didn't sterilize the sound, I mean: you could hear more audience response. And the set was better.
Live is very good too, all classic tracks. Great sound, completely different from Three Sides Live.
Seconds Out maybe has the best songs, but somehow I miss a bit of a "live feel", except for Los Endos.
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Garbs
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Posted: November 09 2005 at 09:02 |
I've been thinking about this and although my favourite Genesis era is the Gabriel/Rutherford/Banks/Hackett/Collins line up, the best live album they have released in my opinion is Three Sides Live.
The old/new mix of tracks works well and the drumming from Chester Thompson & Phil Collins is stunning - the songs just sound so dynamic. I like Seconds Out but I've always found it "duller" than Three Sides. Same applies to Genesis Live - I love all the songs on this album but maybe the recording of the songs lets it down slightly.
I don't own "The Longs" or "The Shorts" so can't really comment on these 2 !!
I'll be interested to see which way the vote goes.......
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