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Shaman
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Topic: EMOTIONAL GUITARISTS Posted: November 11 2005 at 16:23 |
Emotional guitarrists:
Stevie Ray Vaughan
Neal Schon
Albert Lee
Johnny Winter
Frank Marino
Jimi Hendrix
Jeff Beck
David Gilmour
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Empathy
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Posted: November 11 2005 at 15:38 |
greenback wrote:
ivan_2068 wrote:
If somebody can find something more emotional than Steve Hackett's solo on Firth of Fifth, please tell me.
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yes, ivan: jeff beck on roger water's what god wants part 3
- steve rothery
- jeff beck
- steve hackett
- david gilmour
- mike holmes
- gary chandler
- mike oldfield
- andy latimer
- uwe karpa (anyone's daughter)
- edgar froese (on albums like tyger and underwater sunlight)
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Greenback, you make an excellent point. Where's Jeff Beck on this list??
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Empathy
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Posted: November 11 2005 at 15:35 |
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
BTW: I know Clapton ... and I think that a
lot of his emotionality is simply over dramatizing. If vibrato was any
indication of emotionality, Yngwie Malmsteen would be the most
emotional player of them all.
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Or Paul Gilbert!
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ThisWas
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Posted: November 11 2005 at 15:15 |
WHY ISNT LARRY WALLACE ON HERE!! or whatever motorheads guitarist
is named, man the ace of spades solo is one of the coldest deadest
things ever to come into existance. my vote was for andy, lady fantasy
just never gets old.
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Posted: November 06 2005 at 14:43 |
greenback wrote:
ivan_2068 wrote:
If somebody can find something more emotional than Steve Hackett's solo on Firth of Fifth, please tell me.
Iván
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yes, ivan: jeff beck on roger water's what god wants part 3
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I also thought on that solo, it's great, but Forth of Fifth has something special, it's so emotional that there are parts in which he sounds almost as a second keyboard.
And remember, today it's possible because of the MIDI guitar, but this was only sci fi in the 70's, Steve achieved this without any technicall support.
About my second place, I would change it, just been listening Europa by Santana, and it's pure emotion, really incredible.
Iván
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greenback
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Posted: November 06 2005 at 14:20 |
ivan_2068 wrote:
If somebody can find something more emotional than Steve Hackett's solo on Firth of Fifth, please tell me.
Iván
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yes, ivan: jeff beck on roger water's what god wants part 3
- steve rothery
- jeff beck
- steve hackett
- david gilmour
- mike holmes
- gary chandler
- mike oldfield
- andy latimer
- uwe karpa (anyone's daughter)
- edgar froese (on albums like tyger and underwater sunlight)
Edited by greenback
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[HEADPINS - LINE OF FIRE: THE RECORD HAVING THE MOST POWERFUL GUITAR SOUND IN THE WHOLE HISTORY OF MUSIC!>
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: November 06 2005 at 13:27 |
If somebody can find something more emotional than Steve Hackett's solo on Firth of Fifth, please tell me.
Iván
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Posted: November 06 2005 at 04:32 |
AH YES AN EMOTIONAL CREATURE IS THE GUITARIST!
AS HE GAZES AT A BEAUTIFUL SUNSET,TEARS STREAMING DOWN HIS SENSITIVE CHEEKS AS HE CONTEMPLATES THE AWESOME POWER OF NATURE...
OR AS HE CRADLES A NEWBORN BABY IN HIS ARMS AND WONDERS AT THE AMAZING CYCLE OF LIFE...
OR WHEN HE FINDS OUT HIS MANAGER HAS FIDDLED THE BOOKS TAKEN ALL HIS MONEY AND SKIPPED OF TO THE BAHAMAS WITH THE GUITARISTS GIRLFREIND...
YEP HE'D BE PRETTY DAMN EMOTIONAL ONE WOULD THINK!!!!!
P.S, I CHOSE MR GILMOUR
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Prog1611
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Posted: November 06 2005 at 04:12 |
I join in on the boycott. Seriously, how can one speak of guitar playing with emotion and not mention Steve Hackett. Maybe the "pollster" has never heard of him. Quick, Somebody get that man a copy of Spectral Morning!!!
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Posted: November 06 2005 at 03:24 |
FragileDT wrote:
I'm not implying that a technical player cannot be emotional. I am implying that in all generality a technical player spends most of his/her time on technicality. Players like Clapton spent most of his time on vibrato's and emotional feel on the guitar. I mean I like both guitarists a lot, but you can't compare the two emotionally. It's Clapton by a mile. Just as you can't compare the two technically. It's Vai by a mile.
I have the Vai DVD Live at the Astoria London. While it is very good and Vai is a master at many things and an incredible guitarist, he is not the most emotional. A lot of his speed takes away from his emotion. The fan blowing his hair back to make him look cool also takes away from his emotion (only joking around.)
All in all maybe we just differ in our opinions of a guitar players emotion, which is fine. Maybe I just don't see the emotional parts of Vai that you do and maybe you just don't see the way I see Clapton's playing back in the day. |
That highlighted part is where we disagree ... while it's true that the slow melodies carry somewhat more emotion, Vai also manages to play exceedingly difficult parts in a highly emotional way.
BTW: I know Clapton ... and I think that a lot of his emotionality is simply over dramatizing. If vibrato was any indication of emotionality, Yngwie Malmsteen would be the most emotional player of them all.
But of course Vai is not the most emotional guitar player ... I already mentioned Scott Henderson, didn't I?
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Posted: November 06 2005 at 03:16 |
Gilmour hands down, then Latimer and Lifeson from this list. Blackmore is my favourite, but he tends more towards the technical side of things. I won't even comment on Petrucci. However, I'd like to mention another great guitarist which strikes the right balance between emotion and technical skill: Gary Moore. One of my favourite tracks from him is called "Sunset", an instrumental he dedicated to the memory of Randy Rhoads, to be found on Cozy Powell's second solo album "Tilt". Highly recommended!
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Posted: November 06 2005 at 01:42 |
Cygnus X-2 wrote:
Ed_The_Dead wrote:
WHERE IS ROTHERY?!
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Seriously, where is he?
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England, most likely.
But this poll is silly; only a few prog guitarists, and neo-prog is completely ignored. I would have chosen Nick Barrett if he were on here.
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Posted: November 06 2005 at 00:56 |
Ed_The_Dead wrote:
WHERE IS ROTHERY?!
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Seriously, where is he?
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Plastic Man
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Posted: November 06 2005 at 00:53 |
thats a piece of crap list, so i didnt vote. you want emotion? listen to the guitar solos on steve howes 1st solo album!
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Posted: November 06 2005 at 00:21 |
I know he's almost unknown here, but Philippe Catherine, a virtuoso guitar player who toured with Focus is one of the most emotional musicians I ever heard, along with Jan Akkerman.
Iván
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FragileDT
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Posted: November 05 2005 at 16:07 |
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
[QUOTE=FragileDT] [QUOTE=Empathy]
[QUOTE=Radioactive Toy]steve vai's guitar works aren't emotional AT
ALL.. If you think it is you can also make love to a sex doll in my eyes, it's
also cold, and doing what it's supposed to do.. but there's no beauty [/
QUOTE] Go back and listen to "Call it Sleep", "For the Love of God", and
"Tender Surrender". Plenty of emotion in every one of those tracks. [/
QUOTE] Steve Vai is a very very good guitarist. As much as you want to
say that he is very emotional, in the long scope, he is not. Some of his
songs (such as parts of Call it Sleep, For the Love of God, and Tender
Surrender, among other) are emotional, but in the long run, Vai is still a
technical player. I like Vai so don't think I'm just bashing him. He is
among the best at what he does which does not generally include many
emotions. He is very good at diverse sounds of songs and technicalities.[/
QUOTE]
Sorry, but it seems that you're implying that a technical player cannot
be emotional. Having seen Vai live two times and from his DVDs, I can
only strongly disagree. You also picked the wrong songs to show his
emotionality - Whispering a Prayer, Blue Powder, Sisters, Lotus Feet,
Rescue me or Bury Me, Brandos Costumes ... and of course his version of
Little Wing from the DVD. |
I'm not implying that a technical player cannot be emotional. I am
implying that in all generality a technical player spends most of his/her
time on technicality. Players like Clapton spent most of his time on
vibrato's and emotional feel on the guitar. I mean I like both guitarists a
lot, but you can't compare the two emotionally. It's Clapton by a mile. Just
as you can't compare the two technically. It's Vai by a mile.
I have the Vai DVD Live at the Astoria London. While it is very good and
Vai is a master at many things and an incredible guitarist, he is not the
most emotional. A lot of his speed takes away from his emotion. The fan
blowing his hair back to make him look cool also takes away from his
emotion (only joking around.)
All in all maybe we just differ in our opinions of a guitar players emotion,
which is fine. Maybe I just don't see the emotional parts of Vai that you do
and maybe you just don't see the way I see Clapton's playing back in the
day.
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Rockin' Chair
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Posted: November 05 2005 at 15:53 |
LIFESON
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Prog_Bassist
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Posted: November 05 2005 at 15:50 |
No Hackett? BLASPHEMY!!!
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gok22us
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Posted: November 05 2005 at 15:46 |
Gilmour in that list
but STeve Hackett's solo in Firth of Fifth is for me, one of the most powerful guitar solo ever. It melts my heart, brings tears to my eyes, makes my knees crumble, it just gives everything else a run for its money.
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Posted: November 05 2005 at 15:40 |
FragileDT wrote:
Empathy wrote:
Radioactive Toy wrote:
steve vai's guitar works aren't emotional AT ALL.. If you think it is you can also make love to a sex doll in my eyes, it's also cold, and doing what it's supposed to do.. but there's no beauty
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Go back and listen to "Call it Sleep", "For the Love of God", and "Tender Surrender". Plenty of emotion in every one of those tracks.
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Steve Vai is a very very good guitarist. As much as you want to say that he is very emotional, in the long scope, he is not. Some of his songs (such as parts of Call it Sleep, For the Love of God, and Tender Surrender, among other) are emotional, but in the long run, Vai is still a technical player. I like Vai so don't think I'm just bashing him. He is among the best at what he does which does not generally include many emotions. He is very good at diverse sounds of songs and technicalities. |
Sorry, but it seems that you're implying that a technical player cannot be emotional. Having seen Vai live two times and from his DVDs, I can only strongly disagree. You also picked the wrong songs to show his emotionality - Whispering a Prayer, Blue Powder, Sisters, Lotus Feet, Rescue me or Bury Me, Brandos Costumes ... and of course his version of Little Wing from the DVD.
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