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    Posted: Yesterday at 05:30
Of course this can't not be mentioned in a prog punk thread:
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Bad Religion - Into the Unknown 

Apparently unreleased at the time but from what I understand the band were fans of the prog genre. Too bad they never visited this kind of thing again. It winds up sounding a bit like Utopia imo (at least the little I've listened to on youtube).
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Can't really get past The Stranglers. Dave Greenfield (RIP) and Jean Jacques Burnel were the 'proggers' in the band. Their version of Walk On By still sounds as glorious today as it did back in the day and it amuses me that a song extolling the virtues of heroin is still getting plays on mainstream radio (Golden Brown). 
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Los Angeles in the early 80s had a lot of punk-prog  . . .
GEZA X in particular -  a sort of lo-fi early 80s Zappa-meets-Ramones sound
Also there's a compilation called BEGINNERS GUIDE TO COMA
And the band B-PEOPLE was also from that scene.
Can't forget the song "Monitor" by the band BEAK - insane, but I have no other information about them!


Then there's the so-called "Jazz Punk" stuff of the mid-80s:
NoMeansNo
Victims' Family
Plaid Retina

Then there's more modern stuff like:
BIKINI (the Hova Lett album)
The Sort Of Quartet

And the OG prog-punk tunes:
"Forward To Death", and "Ill In The Head", from the DKs' first album.  Apparently they were influenced by Beefheart and the Residents' album Duck Stab!
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Originally posted by Finnforest Finnforest wrote:

I've always said that Minutemen (and even Firehose/Mike Watt) could be considered for a grouping like this. Some of the stuff Minutemen did in their brief career took punk to a different place. One of California's greatest!


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Minutemen were Prog Punk!!! What Makes A Man Start Fires is as Prog as it gets. And don't get me started about Double Nickels On The Dime.
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Yeah, I agree with you.
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Probably better to listen to Best Before. Some great stuff on there
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Crass had an album called Feeding of Five Thousand, right? I think I listened to some of their songs back in the day but it was hardcore punk, from what I remember.
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I remember somone lending me a Crass album back in the 80's and it was unlistenable. Definitely punk for sure. I leant them PIL's Compact Disc in return which was much better!
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^ Crass is one of my fave punk bands of all time but i wouldn't call them prog. More like art punk. Musically they were anchored in trad punk rock but the experimental touches made them quite arty for punk.

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Crass were the ultimate prog-punk band.  Just listen to tracks such as Nagasaki Nightmare, Reality Asylum and Bloody Revolutions 
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Cardiacs are legendary. Deep Turtle, Dier and The League Of Gentlemen are some others I'm quite fond of (although the latter may be more closer to progressive post-punk...)
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I've always said that Minutemen (and even Firehose/Mike Watt) could be considered for a grouping like this. Some of the stuff Minutemen did in their brief career took punk to a different place. One of California's greatest!


...that moment you realize you like "Mob Rules" better than "Heaven and Hell"
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Although I love much that is mentioned here, chances are for a proper punk hardly anything that is mentioned here counts as punk. Post punk maybe. Punk influences, I give you that. 
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The Cardiacs (mentioned above) were considered the prime exponents although the late Tim Smith disliked the 'pronk' label.  Steve Hillage also famously played with Sham 69 at the Reading Festival in 78:


Would agree with This Heat.  I saw Wire a few years ago and they come close as well...




Edited by Rick1 - February 09 2025 at 05:08
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I made a list on RYM of prog punk acts a few years ago

There's quite a few. The biggies are Cardiacs, This Heat and a few moments from Van der Graaf and Hawkwind

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Peter Hamill - Nadir's Big Chance.

It has a very abrasive sound and atleast one of the songs sounds straight from a punk record of 1977 instead of a prog band [I think VdGG members played on this as well]. I personally find this album to be his finest solo album and as good as peak VdGG. No wonder John Lydon of the Sex Pistols held him in high regard when it came to influence on his later band Sex Pistols.
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In 1979, I was very active in the Chicago Punk music scene as the bassist-in-residence for the late, great "Space Place."  Space Place was an old warehouse converted into a musician's incubator (rooms were leased to bands), performance venue and hangout.  


I auditioned for one band, "The Marquis," and when guitarist Todd Dawes wanted to jam, the first riff I threw at him was John Wetton's amazingly muscular bass opening licks from "Lartk's Tongues In Aspic Part II". 

There was a very clear influence of prog musical styles in Chicago's punk back then, including incorporation of electronic keyboard, jazz-rock fusion leads permeating punk anthems and so forth.  It was a remarkable experience! 

This song is reminiscent of the music that Bob Fripp was making with his punk ensemble "The League of Gentlemen."  Good times!!  




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Serbian post-punk band Šarlo Akrobata is already in PA with their only, yet masterful, album released in 1981.
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A few bands that I would suggest in that vein:

Off Minor (post-hardcore/jazz/math rock)
Cardiacs (avant-punk/art rock/experimental rock)
Rx Bandits (ska punk/progressive rock/reggae)
At the Drive-in (specifically Relationship of Command) (post-hardcore/art punk) 

And this one may not count quite as much, but the punk/grunge band 7 Year Bitch also uses a bunch of weird rhythms and time sigs in their music. Their album Viva Zapata might be worth looking into Smile



Edited by Necrotica - February 06 2025 at 22:44
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