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Poll Question: Rank select Trek with Babylon 5 (for fun)
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    Posted: February 05 2025 at 11:09
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You're welcome, Jim. If memory serves me, the guy in the middle is a sort of double agent who suspects that the death of his wife has to do with the alien plot, and the second from left, is the head of human resistance who recruits him.

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That looks interesting too. Thanks!
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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Invasion Earth?

Sounds like V to me, but that came earlier (the original series) and later (the remake). I was big on the original V with Mark Singer as a kid.

I just Googled it, and it's not Invasion Earth. The aliens were truly subtle guys, they didn't plant massive ships over cities, nor launch Blitzkrieg-like assaults with raider ships or stormtroopers. Nobody could tell if it really was an invasion, they wore the aspect of benefactors. As for the year, it's hard for me to tell, maybe it was in the early 00's.
Thanks anyway, Greg!

Edit: I got it. It's called Earth: Final Conflict, five seasons aired between 1997 and 2002, based on an idea sketched by Gene Roddenberry and kept by his widow.



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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Originally posted by Finnforest Finnforest wrote:

Sliders and LEXX. Interesting. I've not seen either. Which should I hit first?

Sliders easily. It was better written and had quite an impressive list of cameo performances, the likes of Roger Daltrey, Jeffrey Dean Morgan, Corey Feldman, Robert Englund etc popping up. Lexx is very entertaining but also very 'US cable TV' originally on Showtime and we know just how sleazy some of their output can be. It does stand up as decent sci-fi though especially if you want something that is set well in the future and out amongst the stars with fantastical possibilities..


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Originally posted by Finnforest Finnforest wrote:

Sliders and LEXX. Interesting. I've not seen either. Which should I hit first?

Sliders easily. It was better written and had quite an impressive list of cameo performances, the likes of Roger Daltrey, Jeffrey Dean Morgan, Corey Feldman, Robert Englund etc popping up. Lexx is very entertaining but also very 'US cable TV' originally on Showtime and we know just how sleazy some of their output can be. It does stand up as decent sci-fi though especially if you want something that is set well in the future and out amongst the stars with fantastical possibilities..
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Invasion Earth?

Sounds like V to me, but that came earlier (the original series) and later (the remake). I was big on the original V with Mark Singer as a kid.
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The Soapbox Operatic Syndrome (SOS) is always haunting good series, writers be careful!

BTW, does anybody remember a series where aliens come bringing amazing gifts, and as they organize their own security force, humans infiltrate in order to discover their hidden agenda? I can't remember its title...

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Sliders and LEXX. Interesting. I've not seen either. Which should I hit first?
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I loved SG Atlantis and Universe. The original too, although it may have went a season or two longer than needed.

I thought SG was wise for never really letting Carter and O'Neill get together. They teased it, yes, but the tension around them and their feelings for each other benefited the viewer. We knew they cared for each other, but we didn't have to suffer a full-blown romantic relationship infiltrating the storylines.
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^^ Sliders was great. They underwent heavy changes of cast, that may have undermined a bit their initial strength. Specially John Rhys-Davies was a critical loss, since his character was the voice of science and ethics, what a pity. And the cancellation of SG Universe, the one with Carlyle, and probably the best of the franchise, was a sad shame.
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I liked Lexx as mentioned, but I only got into that in the early 2000s, and really because I had been very involved in another show's forum by the same production company that got shut down after I brought up plagiarism concerns. While I had not recalled watching much sci-fi in the 90s (I did watch X Files and the new Outer Limits), and Cold Lazarus, I now recall that I did watch Sliders and Stargate SGI one at the time. Sliders was a favourite of mine.
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I haven't watched any of them for years and never really watched Babylon 5. Back in the day it was shown on a Sunday afternoon and was competing against Premier League Soccer which was getting very big at the time. That probably did it no favours. Deep Space Nine was interesting as was Voyager but the latter was more in the traditional Start Trek vein and that appealed to me more.

Other 90's sc-fi? Anyone remember Earth 2? I liked that a lot , got through about 2 seasons if I remember well. (just checked and it was only one season but had 21 episodes which seems mad!)
Sliders was very successful and that would easily be my favorite from that decade. 
Also good was Lexx (I own all that on DVD) and Stargate SG1. That good a very good spin off in the 00's with Robert Carlyle but was cancelled far too early for my liking. 


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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

By the way, I am not really an action fan, and often go with more arthouse fare. Like with music, I do like atmosphere often and a quirkiness. I love 2001: A Space Odyssey but am not into Star Wars.
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Pretty much the same ... though there are times, when the "human interaction" thing is over done and schmaltzy for my tastes. Likewise, some sci-fi stuff is ... over indulgent ... in the science side of things towards the realm of impossible to enjoy and understand.

I was OK with 2001, specially at the time when it came out, and a few years later I got to see it at the Cinerama Dome, which was the equivalent today of the plastic sphere in Las Vegas ... it had pretty much that same effect, though nowadays, very few people realize what a huge experience something like that really is in terms of your appreciation of the arts ... which is something a lot of folks ignore (very visible on PA) by folks that love their favorites and I'm not sure they can see the life of some things in those days ... and then they go about saying that ELP was too much ... like 2001 and SW weren't I suppose ... but what these folks don't see it was a new time, place and they wanted to blow the doors open with very effective materials and shows ... screw that top ten stuff you love! And the majority of those bands have NEVER done an outstanding show of music ... it kinda all died after Pink Floyd and the massive show of trolls at Anaheim Stadium! And now it's about money ... ask Taylor and Mick how much they took home! You and I can't count that far!

SW was fine in its opening, though too much in my book when they put it on in the first three months on theaters with 2001 speakers, and many of them under your butt ... and it really was not an enjoyable film at that point ... it was too much and a lot of it was wasted, and the whole human story/thing was over blown out of the story ... the effects and noise became the movie and it killed it for me. It also fell even further and I have not bothered with any other SW anything when the main character was no longer human and was all wires and this and that ... at that point, I felt disconnected with the story and its quasi-zen bullcrap ... a veritable cliff notes of it all, and an imaginary hero, that was not human. And we're scared of AI ... the idea makes no sense all of a sudden, and how messed up we are in our own ideas ... SW became AI when they fixed the turkeys hand ... it would have been more important (theme wise) if the hand was non-existent and something else done to make the arm/hand efficient ... sort of what GoT did in one case.



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Originally posted by octopus-4 octopus-4 wrote:

Anyway, my favorite Star Trek spin off is Enterprise. The absolute worst  is Strange New Worlds. Please send Pike to a barber.

Big fan of Star Trek TOS.  I admit that after the abysmal first season of TNG I stopped watching any further trek until I decided to catch up with all of them a couple years ago.  I began with Enterprise, and mostly liked it.  I thought the Xindi arc to be very epic.  Now into TNG season 3, which is great.  Haven't seen VOY or DS(.  Saw a couple episodes of DIS, ok.  I actually thought SNW season 1 was excellent, less so season 2.

I haven't checked out Babylon 5


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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Although it made little sense, had something happened to Deep Space Nine like with Moonbase Alpha in Space 1999 (for those that know it), it would have been more exciting.

Exactly my hope back then. If the whole Moon broke orbit into the unknown, why not DS9? Different tales to tell, that's for sure. The exact opposite to being static, IMV, would be exploration, rather than the Space Opera drill of ray-guns, battles and a Princess in distress. The first season of Space 1999 was awesome, and Barry Morse's character a serious candidate for best scientist/philosopher ever lost in space (Spock, try hard if you want to dipute the pole).
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By the way, I am not really an action fan, and often go with more arthouse fare. Like with music, I do like atmosphere often and a quirkiness. I love 2001: A Space Odyssey but am not into Star Wars. Under the Skin is one of my favourite more modern films that deals with aliens. Westworld, the HBO show, has plenty of action, but it is the character and atmosphere that makes that show for me. Another quite modern fave show of mine in the sci-fi vein is Utopia (not the US remake but the original British one).

My favourite Captain is the original Pike ho they massacred with Strange New Worlds. Yep, I'd put that as worst too. And I love the pilot for Star Trek, later turned into The Cage.

In the 90s I actually was not really into sci-fi and was much more about international cinema drama. I got back into sci-fi in the 2000s, starting as a nostalgia thing.

I don;t much like very fast-moving shows generally, I like to have time to reflect and just take in the scenery. The dead time can really help with a show or movie, foir instance with Wim Wenders Paris, Texas. A reason why I love Twin Peaks: The Return is how it can just slow down, which would test the patience of many.

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Anyway, my favorite Star Trek spin off is Enterprise. The absolute worst  is Strange New Worlds. Please send Pike to a barber.
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I'm a trekker, but DS9 is the worst spin-off ever. I've never seen Babylon 5, so the first in the list is my choice. It deserves at least 7 votes over 9.
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Deep Space Nine> Voyager> Babylon 5. I thought both DS9 and Voyager improved over the course of their run, but found Babylon 5's last season kind of weak. Having said that, I enjoyed all three very much.

Some others I enjoyed from that decade are Farscape, Stargate SG-1, The X-Files, and The Outer Limits (which was the most inconsistent of these, but occasionally had some good episodes).

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