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    Posted: January 28 2025 at 09:28
For a band like Yes, it's easier to come up with a best 5 or even best 4. "The Yes Album", "Fragile", and "Close to the Edge" are often thought of as the best three, I'd include "Relayer" too. It really depends on the band. In the case of King Crimson, Court, Larks, and Red are generally agreed upon the best 3 (though some may substitute Larks for Discipline). But seriously can we all agree all the classic Yes albums are good (with the possible exception of Tormato)?

I'm not sure what direction Yes would have taken if Horn and Downes stayed in Yes. Maybe their breakup needed to happen.

>Yes has changed as much as the mighty morphing King Crimson
Lineup-wise yes, but not initially. Sonically, not entirely sure but I don't think so.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Jaketejas Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 27 2025 at 22:45
I’d have to change the 3 to a 5 and say negative.

The Yes Album
90125
Fragile
Close to the Edge
Drama

Wish we had more of The Buggles version.
Yes has changed as much as the mighty morphing King Crimson.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote BasedProgger Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 27 2025 at 15:48
Drama should be it's own era (Buggles era?) and I consider "The Yes Album" classic Yes (when Steve Howe joined and the band figured out their sound, although I get why it could be seen as a proto album, no Rick Wakeman keyboards or Roger Dean cover art yet) but otherwise I agree.

As for the best 3 of Yes, in my opinion, "Close to the Edge", "Relayer", and one of the 1971 albums.
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maybe we can break it down into eras of the band
Proto Yes (first 3) 
Classic Yes (Fragile to Drama)
Rabin Era 
Neo Yes 
Pastiche Yes
I still think that Kaye had to leave for the band to shake off its hippy trippy beginnings and become a fully functioning classic prog band. The Yes album is therefore a transtion album for me albeit that it's still very good. After Drama they become something different for a while (Rabin Era) before circling back to the classic traditional Yes sound for the Ladder and Keys studio stuff (''Neo Yes''), before we then we have all the later 'Yes pastiche' albums. I think my point is that GGTO doesn't take the band any further forward so perhaps some weight could be given to 90125 (the peak of commercial radio orientated Yes) and The Ladder (nicely rounded if not that inspired Yes). I've thought long about this for many seventies bands that were just treading water after their earlier ground breaking releases. Yes fit this idea as well as any. Progressive Rock in all its high filuting pomposity is certainly well represented by GFTO but I'm not hearing anything new in terms of ideas.

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The Yes Album * Close to the Edge * Going for the One? the best 3?

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Originally posted by mrawjm mrawjm wrote:

Imo, Yes were plugged into the ether/creativity most for:

Going for the One
Relayer
Close to the Edge

You could argue Fragile for the direction it was going.

Tales was inspired too but would have benefitted from being a whole band album rather than being written only by Jon and Steve.

I agree about Tales , certainly has many great moments and wonderful melodies but whenever Wakeman comes in it just feels tacked on. Alan White was a great rock drummer but not so good as Bruford at filling space. Chris makes everything sound better and his tone is as good as ever so maybe not so much lost there.
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My Personal 3 favorite yes albums are Fragile, CTTE and Relayer. The yes album is probably a good fourth place. I never really personally enjoyed GFTO that much though. It is sort of tied with Tormato for my least favorite out of the original 11 yes albums. Let me go into why I love each of these yes albums.

Fragile:
My favorite yes album, and easily in my top 10 albums ever. This is an experience of prog that cannot be missed. From the energetic Roundabout al the way to the emotional and climactic Heart of the Sunrise, this album takes you on a flurry of emotions and adventures. Cans and Brahms takes some time to grow on you but is a phenomenal song once you get it, We Have Heaven is super catchy and fades nicely into South side of the Sky (plus the reprise at the end is super cool). The aforementioned South Side of the Sky is a phenomenal Prog masterpiece, then you get the poppier Long Distance Runaround, the Fan-Favorite Fish, the incredible Guitar picking on mood for a day (probably my favorite of the shorter tracks) before finishing with Heart of the Sunrise. What a fantastic album I love every second of it.

CTTE:
This album is the single highest rated prog album ever. And it sort of makes sense. The title track is arguably the best song yes ever did, AYAI has a great ethereal Riff, and Siberian Khatru... Exists.. Just a phenomenal experience through and through

Relayer:
The last 5 minutes of Gates of Delerium are some of the best 5 minutes in all of prog. It is transcendent, emotional, moving, and powerful. Even if I think CTTE is an overall better album for having a better long track, Relayer probably has a better B side, with that funny moment where Jon goes "cha cha cha cha cha" Just amazing even if it isn't as good as the other two.

TLDR: I love yes
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In my view, the albums where Yes really hit their creative stride are The Yes Album, Close to the Edge, and Going for the One. Tales from Topographic Oceans could have been something special if it could just have been trimmed down to three LP sides and released on CD as one continuous track; sadly, the CD format wasn’t around back then. Although it has some great songs, Fragile gets on my nerves a bit with all those solo instrumentals between the songs, while Relayer has only one standout lengthy track, to be honest, mostly due to the "Soon" part, which is an ingenious accent that puts more impact—without "Soon," however, it would be just a mess; the rest of the album is to me like if they’re just filling space; even though I love virtuosity in prog, cold technical rock without any warm moment never interests me too much. So, I’m totally in agreement with what the original poster said.
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Imo, Yes were plugged into the ether/creativity most for:

Going for the One
Relayer
Close to the Edge

You could argue Fragile for the direction it was going.

Tales was inspired too but would have benefitted from being a whole band album rather than being written only by Jon and Steve.
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Ctte, Yes Album but Relayer
            
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote jamesbaldwin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 08 2024 at 14:58
In my opinion, Relayer and Close to the Edge are the peak of Yes.

I prefer Relayer.

After these two, there is a large iatus.

For the third place, 

there are:
- Fragile
- Tales
- 90125 - that is pop prog-related. 

So, I could go with Tales.
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I become more fond of Relayer with further listening to it, but it's also some of a struggle for me with the more Pop-influenced parts, and the end result ain't quite sure yet.







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                      quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond
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Ranking all 24 of the YES studio albums, including Anderson Bruford Wakeman Howe

12.4 stars 1989: Yes - Anderson Bruford Wakeman Howe - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVPGzOHIIgz9mrbq0cYIASUPCn7d20-Dy



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Originally posted by Big Sky Big Sky wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

I've noticed that on the rate your music website there seems to be a lot of people who don't really appear to be prog fans who have TYA, Fragile and CTTE as four or more star albums. Why just those three? I'm not sure but maybe they have some sort of hipster following. Those folks are really missing out though by not listening to relayer also.


I noticed that. For me, TFTO, Relayer, GFTO and Drama are also at least 4 star albums. Magnification would be close. Without thinking deeply about it, Yessongs, Progeny and Symphonic Live would be live albums that would be 4 star or better releases from Yes.


Ratings often beget more ratings. As stuff rises up through lists it gets more traction and popularity commonly. That said, Relayer has a 3.86 rating with 10,915 ratings, which is nothing to sneeze at. Going for the One does pretty well there too with a 3.61 and 6,101 ratings. I did not get into that album. Relayer is the last Yes album I care about, but I'm not nearly as big a fan of Yes as so many at this site.

I tend to find that my tastes align much, much more with the ratings and ranking at RYM than at PA. And I have discovered so much amazing to me music thanks to their charts.

One thing someone complained about here was how beloved Radiohead is in its all years /all genres top charts. But that site got started when Radiohead was massive, gained lots of ratings then, and, well, I love Radiohead too.

EDITed to fix two typos. And by the way, lots of fans of progressive music and experimental music there, but it does not have nearly the percentage of Symphonic Prog (and related) music fans as here. For instance, one of my fave bands, Swans, gets lots of attention in the charts there, whereas here it is more niche. Neo-Prog shows itself to be way more popular here than many of the more experimental, and far out/ out-there acts included in PA do at RYM. I feel like PA is more conservative commonly with an emphasis on less quirky and more melodic music often. I think there's lot of innovative and adventurous music that gets lots of love by many who rate music at RYM. But it does get lots of raters.

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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

I've noticed that on the rate your music website there seems to be a lot of people who don't really appear to be prog fans who have TYA, Fragile and CTTE as four or more star albums. Why just those three? I'm not sure but maybe they have some sort of hipster following. Those folks are really missing out though by not listening to relayer also.


I noticed that. For me, TFTO, Relayer, GFTO and Drama are also at least 4 star albums. Magnification would be close. Without thinking deeply about it, Yessongs, Progeny and Symphonic Live would be live albums that would be 4 star or better releases from Yes.
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Originally posted by Hrychu Hrychu wrote:

Going for the One is imo one of Yes' weakest albums. I find Topographic Oceans to be a way way superior work.
Although it is about the same band, a four-part epic double LP concept album such as TfTO is scarcely comparable to GftO, which, apart from the fifteen-minute Awaken, comprises "normal" tracks devoid of a comprehensive concept.
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It's all a subjective matter of opinion, and there is no right or wrong.  I like all YES albums a lot (some more than others), with the exception of most of Union/Onion, and most of H&E, but it's like choosing an ice cream flavor. I do have a few  "favorite" flavors (albums), but sometimes I like a different flavor just to keep things varied. 

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote AFlowerKingCrimson Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 04 2024 at 10:52
I've noticed that on the rate your music website there seems to be a lot of people who don't really appear to be prog fans who have TYA, Fragile and CTTE as four or more star albums. Why just those three? I'm not sure but maybe they have some sort of hipster following. Those folks are really missing out though by not listening to relayer also.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Cristi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 04 2024 at 02:28
Originally posted by Hrychu Hrychu wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Yes has much weaker albums than GTFO though.
Absolutely. I personally can't stand 90210 (1983). It's not the 80's production or the synth pop stylistics. The songwriting on that album is just so infantile and dumbed down.

I disagree here. I've always liked 90125, I like this album even more than GTFO tbh. 
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