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Originally posted by I prophesy disaster I prophesy disaster wrote:

Peter Hammill - pH7
 
This is actually Peter Hammill's eighth album, not his seventh album as suggested by the title. However, having studied chemistry, I have never regarded "pH7" as referring to a seventh album, and have always assumed it referred to the pH of neutral water, which fits in with the underlying theme of normality throughout the album.
 
 


I always thought it was a chemistry reference too (which it probably is) but also assumed it was his seventh(I never bothered counting). Then again maybe PH wasn't think of Fool's Mate as his first album. Who knows. 
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^Yep indeed.
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Originally posted by Awesoreno Awesoreno wrote:

Originally posted by Floydoid Floydoid wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

King Crimson's Starless and Bible Black album, which doesn't include the song "Starless". Smile


So many album titles are not included in the song titles or lyrics, nor do they really reflect the theme of the album.

See also: 'Meddle' by Pink Floyd, or Brain Salad Surgery by ELP... tho the title song did turn up later on Works vol.2. Similarly with LZ's 'Houses of the Holy' which I think was the first time that the title track of one album actually turned up on the follow-up release.
You may already know this, but the track Houses of the Holy was recorded during the sessions of the album of the same name, but is one of the few tracks (about a quarter of them) on Physical Graffiti that were recorded earlier and initially discarded, but included on the latter album to make it long enough for two discs. This is why a couple of tracks have that older Robert Plant vocal style before he made a deliberate change in his singing to preserve his voice.

And there are earlier cases of a title track appearing on a follow up album, like Frank Zappa's Absolutely Free song appearing on We're Only in it for the Money in 1968.
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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Another one is Three Sides Live by Genesis since the original UK version was all live. They didn't think the US audience would understand the British humor so they put a fourth side with studio tracks on it instead. 


Maybe would have been more confuddling if they'd called it 'Three Sides Live; One Side Dead'.
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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Originally posted by Floydoid Floydoid wrote:

Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

Pink Floyd - A Collection of Great Dance Songs


Ah good old Floydian sarcasm!



Although not prog how about the worst of Jefferson Airplane?


Not to mention 'The Worst of Ashton Gardner & Dyke'.

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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Another one is Three Sides Live by Genesis since the original UK version was all live. They didn't think the US audience would understand the British humor so they put a fourth side with studio tracks on it instead. 

The idea that Genesis had a sense of humour is funny in itself. Personally I never understood that title either although I assumed the point was that 3 sides were taken from the Abacab tour (so an actual concert perhaps) and the forth side had previous unreleased archive material. I didn't see it as a 'joke' tbh.
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Originally posted by Floydoid Floydoid wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

King Crimson's Starless and Bible Black album, which doesn't include the song "Starless". Smile


So many album titles are not included in the song titles or lyrics, nor do they really reflect the theme of the album.

See also: 'Meddle' by Pink Floyd, or Brain Salad Surgery by ELP... tho the title song did turn up later on Works vol.2. Similarly with LZ's 'Houses of the Holy' which I think was the first time that the title track of one album actually turned up on the follow-up release.
You may already know this, but the track Houses of the Holy was recorded during the sessions of the album of the same name, but is one of the few tracks (about a quarter of them) on Physical Graffiti that were recorded earlier and initially discarded, but included on the latter album to make it long enough for two discs. This is why a couple of tracks have that older Robert Plant vocal style before he made a deliberate change in his singing to preserve his voice.
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Peter Hammill - pH7
 
This is actually Peter Hammill's eighth album, not his seventh album as suggested by the title. However, having studied chemistry, I have never regarded "pH7" as referring to a seventh album, and have always assumed it referred to the pH of neutral water, which fits in with the underlying theme of normality throughout the album.
 
 
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Originally posted by Floydoid Floydoid wrote:

Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

Pink Floyd - A Collection of Great Dance Songs


Ah good old Floydian sarcasm!


Although not prog how about the worst of Jefferson Airplane?
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Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Originally posted by Floydoid Floydoid wrote:

Pink Floyd - The Final Cut. They releaed 3 more studio albums after that, tho TFC was the last album of the Waters Domination era.

I initiallly thought that too but apparently "the final cut" is some kind of Shakespear reference. I'm not a Shakespear expert so I don't know any specifics but I remember hearing that.

it very well could be the end of Present but the title has many other possible interpretations.
Another could be that it's not the end of the world if Present no longer exists
It's an ambiguous title for sure but misleading? Maybe only as a quick impression


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I don't wish to split hairs about this and you do have a point but my initial impression of that title based on the fact that Roger passed away is that it was a bit misleading. As you say there could be multiple interpretations of it and we can also say that about a lot of titles we might think of as misleading. If a band puts out an album called 20 jazz funk hits and it's clearly not jazz funk then yeah that could be seen as misleading unless one is in on the joke. 
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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Originally posted by Floydoid Floydoid wrote:

Pink Floyd - The Final Cut. They releaed 3 more studio albums after that, tho TFC was the last album of the Waters Domination era.


I initiallly thought that too but apparently "the final cut" is some kind of Shakespear reference. I'm not a Shakespear expert so I don't know any specifics but I remember hearing that.


Indeed yes, or it could have been in reference to the final edit of movie before it's released, and possibly a side-swipe at the producer & director of 'The Wall: the Movie' both of whom Roger was at odds with.
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I tend to find Focus' numbering and titles a little confusing.

I guess Focus 8 (2002) was called so, because the Akkerman/ van Leer album from 1985 was apparently a side project (even though it included the two principle lights), so the numbering continued straight from Con Proby (1978), which was number 7.

But in 2005, they recorded Focus 8.5 'Beyond The Horizon' which was another side-project, although it included all the relevant band members... however this wasn't released until 2016, after 9 and 10, so needed to be called 8.5.

A year later, in 2017, they released the double 'Focus Family Album', which seemed to follow a very similar writing style to Focus 8.5, with most of the main tracks a joint band collaboration, but for some reason  couldn't be called Focus 11....

I think I've been mislead...
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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Originally posted by Floydoid Floydoid wrote:

Pink Floyd - The Final Cut. They releaed 3 more studio albums after that, tho TFC was the last album of the Waters Domination era.

I initiallly thought that too but apparently "the final cut" is some kind of Shakespear reference. I'm not a Shakespear expert so I don't know any specifics but I remember hearing that.

it very well could be the end of Present but the title has many other possible interpretations.
Another could be that it's not the end of the world if Present no longer exists
It's an ambiguous title for sure but misleading? Maybe only as a quick impression


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Originally posted by Floydoid Floydoid wrote:

Pink Floyd - The Final Cut. They releaed 3 more studio albums after that, tho TFC was the last album of the Waters Domination era.

I initiallly thought that too but apparently "the final cut" is some kind of Shakespeare reference. I'm not a Shakespear expert so I don't know any specifics but I remember hearing that.


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Another one is Three Sides Live by Genesis since the original UK version was all live. They didn't think the US audience would understand the British humor so they put a fourth side with studio tracks on it instead. 

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Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

^ why do you find that misleading? You can either take that two ways:

1) the band will continue to exist as Present without Trigaux OR
2) Trigaux was stating that death is not the end but really just a portal to the next journey

Great album although the album cover is a not my favorite

REAL misleading album titles include:

Throbbing Gristle - 20 Jazz Funk Greats
Bjork - Debut (actually her second album)
Queen - Jazz
Pink Floyd - A Collection of Great Dance Songs




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Well, I thought I read that the intention was to continue the band even though he was in bad health but it turns out the band doesn't exist any more (if I'm not mistaken) due to his death. 
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Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

Throbbing Gristle has to take top prize.


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Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

^ why do you find that misleading? You can either take that two ways:

1) the band will continue to exist as Present without Trigaux OR
2) Trigaux was stating that death is not the end but really just a portal to the next journey

Great album although the album cover is a not my favorite

REAL misleading album titles include:

Throbbing Gristle - 20 Jazz Funk Greats
Bjork - Debut (actually her second album)
Queen - Jazz
Pink Floyd - A Collection of Great Dance Songs




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Throbbing Gristle has to take top prize.
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