8/1/81: Post-MTV Prog |
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Boojieboy
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Posted: August 13 2024 at 18:08 |
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SAGA way above the rest for me.
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richardh
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One of the great missed opportunites was that there was no further collaboration between them. For those unaware, Mount Teidi is an extinct volcano on the Spanish island of Tenerife and one of its major tourist attractions. Carl Palmer went to live there permanently and I guess Oldfield was also living there at that time.
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Don't forget Carl Palmer's pre-Asia guest appearance on "Mount Teidi"!
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^That's a very good point, but per usual, the forums default to the well-known artists. Fame bias, I suppose.
(I'm going to be super pedantic here, Depois do Fim was actually recorded in 1977, just not released until 1983. Either way, I still agree that there is a bias towards Anglo-American prog, with some nods towards the Italians and Swedes).
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Hrychu
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But anyway, the poll is stupid because it pushes a "1st world centric narrative. In poorer countries, such as the post Eastern Bloc ones or non-commonwealth states in general, incredible complex prog music was still recorded post August 1981! Examples: Synkopy & Oldřich Veselý - Sluneční hodiny (~December 1981) Anyone's Daughter - In Blau (1982) RSC - s/t (1983) Bacamarte - Depois do Fim (1983) East - Hüség (1982) Автограф - s/t (1986) I'm excluding the unrelated 1st wave OG Neo-Prog movement in the UK obviously. ;) |
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8/1/81 = August 1st, 1981 ?!! I hate the way Americans write numerical dates, it's just so WRONG! Day/Month/Year is much better, though Year/Month/Day is the best because chronological order is the same as alphabetical order. BTW, I vote for Yes - 90125. |
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Discipline of King Crimson followed by Signals of Rush..
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"PROG IS MY FERRARI".
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richardh
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I like all Mike Oldfield up to and inc Discovery. After that it's patchy. OLdfield was never clearly ''prog'' and kind of did his own thing parallel (or ''prog adjacent'' as is the trendy term) to that movement so he was well aware of it. When he toured Incantations it was way too impracticable (similar to ELP with Works) so he modified his style, trimming it down to a more slicker band orientated format. I still like it but you can't beat the first 4. ''Prog'' maybe, contemporary classical music for sure.
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Pink Floyd TFC.
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Mr. Oldfield 😎
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Jared
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what do you think of Mike's Taurus II 24:45 (Side 1) and Orabidoo 13:03 (Side 2)? No, Incantations it certainly ain't, but it's both a brave and quality album to release in 1982, esp after Platinum and QE2?
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Voted Signals.
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richardh
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Of all the albums on the list , EL and Powell was the only attempt to bring prog back in it's original long song format. Side One was for the headphones, side two was meant to crossover to the current audience with more 'radio friendly' tunes such as Touch and Go and Love Blind. They also do the classical thing on Mars. Cozy wanted to use electronic drums but the record company resisted it. Everything was going against the grain with this album and when the band toured the USA the audiences got smaller the further west they headed. Madison Square Gardens was probably the high point of the tour and eventually a live album came out of that show. It's much better than the poorly produced album which had way too much echo on the vocals. Sadly the line up didn't continue and as soon as Palmer was free of his commitments to Asia the original line reformed and announced a festival date in Germany. That soon fell through and it was maybe 5 years before they properly reformed. In the meantime Emerson and Palmer performed at an Atlantic record celebration bash as 'Emerson and Palmer' along with Robert Berry. There also followed the excrement that was 3 to the power of 3 with said same line up.
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octopus-4
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Well, call it pop but my choice can't not be 90125
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Jared
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The truth is, Rush... but I'll give my vote to the Mike Oldfield, which is a great album
then, Tull come third. The only album I've not heard here is the Saga, who have never done much for me
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Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson
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King Crimson, Jethro Tull, Steve Hacketrt.
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Jethro Tull - The Broadsword And The Beast
Emerson, Lake & Powell - Emerson, Lake & Powell Genesis - Abacab Supertramp - Famous Last Words
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Among my very earliest memories of BOTH Saga and King Crimson was seeing MTV-broadcast concerts!
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RRUUSSHH
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Welcome to the middle of the film.
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