The forum and the Big Muddy

An even better idea would be to let those one or two people who want to use this site to push their political propaganda go start their own site so they don't ugly up this site anymore.

omphaloskepsis wrote:   ...  If you don't want to discuss politics...ignore the thread. ...

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Edited by Hugh Manatee - July 25 2024 at 02:25

Saperlipopette! wrote: Hrychu wrote: The main problem is not the presence of political discussion here but the tendency for PA forum members to get upset when the little prog rock comfort tub stops being their personal echo chamber. It's very easy to see in the case of political threads but it's everywhere on this forum. Like, when suddenly someone expresses an unpopular opinion, eg. "I don't like Klaus Schulze" or "I think late 1970's till 1980's prog was better than early 1970's prog"... the same kind of toxic melee flourishes. Haha really? The toxic melee starts flourishing simply beacuse someone states that they don't like Klaus Schulze? It takes two to tango you know. Maybe work with how you interact with people first, and perhaps you can fix your main problem singlehandedly. i know I'm far from perfect myself, but I don't really have any problems to adress either. -anyway this is about the political discussions specifically, because that's what has been shut down and closed

Edited by Hugh Manatee - July 25 2024 at 02:05

Atavachron wrote: I'm sure ompha & maybe you would prefer to not have those who disagree with your assertions simply not post here

Quite the opposite. I think our only online argument has been about free speech, and I think everything except for any kind of threats (which there are laws against anyway - so don't break the law) should be allowed. I just largely stay away from political discussions myself, as it doesn't do me much good. I think people who can't take the heat should stay away - rather complain to the admins.

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Easy Money wrote: Atavachron wrote: omphaloskepsis wrote:  If you don't want to discuss politics...ignore the thread. And again, the issue is not those who don't want to discuss politics and therefore should ignore threads, the issue is those who do choose to discuss and not to ignore.   The "Just ignore it" tenet is increasingly tiring, irrelevant, ignorant, and unrealistic. Actually, if the few people who want this really wanted to have a discussion, they could easily do that by private messenger or email. No, what these few really want is to proselytize and use this site as their soapbox for their personal propaganda. Generally those who want to do this are those who have never helped build the site into something popular, instead, they want others to do the work of building the site and then they come here with their soapbox and start proselytizing.

True enough, but the 'Don't post,ignore' thing is getting quite old and discussing by PM seems most unlikely.   If someone gets on a soapbox the soapbox is gonna get kicked out from under them. But that's just me I guess.

Atavachron wrote: omphaloskepsis wrote:   If you don't want to discuss politics...ignore the thread. And again, the issue is not those who don't want to discuss politics and therefore should ignore threads, the issue is those who do choose to discuss and not to ignore.   The "Just ignore it" tenet is increasingly tiring, irrelevant, ignorant, and unrealistic.

Actually, if the few people who want this really wanted to have a discussion, they could easily do that by private messenger or email. No, what these few really want is to proselytize and use this site as their soapbox for their personal propaganda.
Generally those who want to do this are those who have never helped build the site into something popular, instead, they want others to do the work of building the site and then they come here with their soapbox and start proselytizing.