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Posted: September 12 2024 at 12:32 |
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Here's a song about the French queen, Marie Antoinette, literally losing her head in 1793, during the French Revolution (1789-99): Curved Air - "Marie Antoinette" (excerpt) Marie Antoinette Your name's a legend In this land Treasure for your pleasure Bestowed on favoured gentleman The people are in arms Marching on the town They rise Chanting revolution! "Vive la Nation!" Marie Antoinette Your shadow's falling Along the land Anger born of hunger Poisons the hearts of your loyal men Fire in their eyes Steel in their hands They rise Chanting revolution! "Vive la Nation!" ..................... We are the people of France We demand That the elegant blue-blooded Leeches that bleed us Are taught what it means To grow fat and not feed us We are the people of France You must heed us Already at the Bastille The prisoners all run free They're hammering on the door Marie Antoinette They've taken the guillotine They're coming to take the Queen (from the allbum Phantasmagoria (1972))
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Sean Trane
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Leave it to Rog The Rogue Waters to insult Maggie Bicher.
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let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
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It wouldn't suprise me if there were some songs too about Mag Thatcher, The Iron Lady's Britain. |
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Similarily to "Supper's Ready", VdGG's "Childlike Faith in Childhood's End" is not overtly political but rather optimistic about the future of Humanity, and thus surely having some political effect: Van der Graaf Generator - "Childlike Faith in Childhood's End" (excerpt) All the jokers and gaolers, all the junkies and slavers too, all the throng who have danced a merry tune - human we can all be, but Humanity we must rise above, in the name of all faith and hope and love. There's a time for all pilgrims, and a time for the fakers too, there's a time when we all will stand alone and nude, naked to the galaxies - naked, but clothed in the overview... as we reach Childhood's End we must start anew. And though dark is the highway, and the peak's distance breaks my heart, for I never shall see it, still I play my part, believing that what waits for us is the cosmos compared to the dust of the past... In the death of mere humans life shall start (from the album Still Life (1976))
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More about "Supper's Ready", which, while not overtly politically, concludes by seeming to be optimistic about the future of human societies, and sees "the new Jerusalem" as the model for a perfect, fulfilled society (at least according to Edward Macan's Rocking the Classics, 1997 p. 81): Genesis - "Supper's Ready" (part vii) Can't you feel our souls ignite? Shedding ever-changing colours In the darkness of the fading night Like the river joins the ocean As the germ in a seed grows We have finally been freed to get back home There's an angel standing in the sun And he's crying with a loud voice "This is the supper of the mighty one" Lord of Lords, King of Kings Has returned to lead his children home To take them to the new Jerusalem (from the album Foxtrot (1972))
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Shots taken at Ron Reagan's United States - though the pictures show the Great Depression images. It's missing the last minutes with more closing comments This is worthy of Waters' Final Cut or Amused To Death. Edited by Sean Trane - September 07 2024 at 13:53 |
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Yes - "Total Mass Retain", Close to the Edge, Close to the Edge (1972) About this part of the Close to the Edge suite has Jon Anderson told: "It's got this deep sad feeling for the mass rape of our planet, for the evilness which creates the wars, and there's no answers to all these things. It's common sense in knowing what's right and what's wrong." (as quoted in David Weigel's The Show That Never Ends: The rise and fall of Prog Rock, 2017 p. 104) |
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This isn't really prog but I'm going to post it anyway since it's by a prog icon. I suppose most on here have it heard it before but for those who haven't here you go.
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^ It's a very fine review, but it finds that "The lyrics on the resulting album are very cynical and dark. Mankind, destroying itself and its environment in its stupid greed, is given little mercy in Gustavson’s lyrics.", and I can't see in which way the lyrics are cynical. Edited by David_D - September 01 2024 at 05:07 |
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^ Actually, I think it's most fair to post this review here in its entirety: Being is the fourth studio album by Wigwam, founded in Finland in 1968. Wigwam’s
first three albums contain many great moments, but each of them is rather
uneven as a whole. Being transforms all of this into a
full set of one exquisite composition after another, forming a very coherent
whole. Being is a theme album, but it represents the section
of concept albums where the actual theme is very difficult to sum up in a few
words. It is a kind of study of the clashes between different social classes
and ideologies. With a strong sarcastic and black humour touch. Some of the
lyrics, which mocked communism, were rejected by the Love Records label, which
had a very strong left-wing slant. The mastermind behind the whole concept of Being was keyboardist/vocalist Jukka Gustavson, but he did not write and compose all the songs on the album alone, but shared the workload with bassist Pekka Pohjola and keyboardist/vocalist Jim Pembroke, who wrote the songs according to Gustavson’s loose instructions. Some of the compositions had been written before the concept of Being was conceived, but Gustavson then modified them as best he could to make them fit better into the whole. The lyrics
on the resulting album are very cynical and dark. Mankind, destroying itself
and its environment in its stupid greed, is given little mercy in Gustavson’s
lyrics. Pembroke’s ’Petty-Bourgeois’, ’Maestro Mercy’ and ’Marvelry Skimmer’ at
least lighten the atmosphere a little. The darkest
track on the album is Pohjola’s ”Pride of the Biosphere” where Gustavson’s
lyrics have a military chaplain telling stories in a squeaky voice about how
officers used to rape the waitresses in a military canteen and then shoot them.
In the background, the devout organ theme of the Pohjola plays in sarcastic
contrast. Pohjola later recycled the same melody in a less haunting mood on his
own album Keesojen lehto (1977). Being was a major project for
Wigwam, carefully built over the course of a year. Although the actual studio
time was only about a month. Which was a lot for a Finnish rock band at that
time. Usually, Finnish rock albums were recorded in a week or even less. Wigwam had
already taken clear steps towards more progressive music with their previous
album Fairyport (1971) and this trend is only confirmed
with Being. The songs are more complex and the instrumental
performances more virtuosic. However,
like many other progressive bands, Wigwam didn’t set out to build songs of
colossal length, but Being consists mostly of short 2-4 minute
songs. The only exceptions are the 9 minute ”Pedagogue” and the 6 minute
”Prophet”. On the other hand, some of the songs form suites of their own, i.e.
some of the songs are tied together by seamlessly stitching them together. Being’s compositions are so dense and
full of musical information and ideas that many a mediocre prog band would have
built a 20 minute epic out of them. Indeed, Being’s short but
extremely complex pieces are more akin to the music of Gentle Giant and especially Henry Cow than to the more leisurely
symphonic arcs of, say, Yes or Genesis. Jukka
Gustavson’s beloved soul influences add their own piquant flavour not often
heard in prog. Being sounds a bit like what Henry Cow might
sound like if Stevie Wonder had been a member of the band. The
respected British music critic Ian Mcdonald went further than
me in his comparison and wrote in praise of the album, describing the music as
sounding like the aforementioned Stevie Wonder meets Frank Zappa’s
Mother Of Invention and Robert Wyatt, all directed by composer Arnold
Schoenberg. Yes, I could subscribe to that too. The more
complex compositions by Gustavson and Pohjola alternate in a balanced way with
Pembroke’s slightly lighter pieces (which are not simple tunes either). It’s a
really effective solution and the whole thing even feels surprisingly coherent.
Although the original composition of the songs can be clearly traced back to
one man, all the songs, after going through the arrangement/recording grinder,
have become specifically Wigwam music. The most
challenging aspect of Being is represented by Gustavson’s
compositions, especially ”Pedagogue” and ”Prophet”, which are not only
rhythmically complex, but also constantly evolving and deftly evading the
normal pop formula of musical repetition. ”Pedagogue”
has its roots in the three-minute single ”Pedagogi”, released a couple of years
earlier, but on Being Gustavson modified and expanded the
composition significantly and the link to the original version is barely
recognisable. The beautifully sounding ”Pedagogue”, which is full of changes in
tempo, features brass arrangements by Pekka Pohjola that are a treat to listen
to and bring to mind not only Pohjola’s idol Frank Zappa, but also Pohjola’s
own first solo albums. In the context of Being, the arrangements
could have worked a bit more sharply, though. Gustavson’s effervescent and
nimble-fingered soloing on a Fender electric piano is also particularly
stunning in ’Pedagogue’. The song also features a soprano saxophone solo
from Pekka Pöyry. ( https://pienemmatpurot.com/2024/02/03/review-wigwam-being-1974/ ) Edited by David_D - August 31 2024 at 06:10 |
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A Finnish Prog site has a very fine review of Being, and a part of it says: "Being is a theme album, but it
represents the section of concept albums where the actual theme is very
difficult to sum up in a few words. It is a kind of study of the clashes
between different social classes and ideologies. With a strong sarcastic and black
humour touch. Some of the lyrics, which mocked communism, were rejected by the
Love Records label, which had a very strong left-wing slant.
................... The lyrics
on the resulting album are very cynical and dark. Mankind, destroying itself
and its environment in its stupid greed, is given little mercy in Gustavson’s
lyrics. Pembroke’s ’Petty-Bourgeois’, ’Maestro Mercy’ and ’Marvelry Skimmer’ at
least lighten the atmosphere a little. The darkest
track on the album is Pohjola’s ”Pride of the Biosphere” where Gustavson’s
lyrics have a military chaplain telling stories in a squeaky voice about how
officers used to rape the waitresses in a military canteen and then shoot them.
In the background, the devout organ theme of the Pohjola plays in sarcastic
contrast." ( https://pienemmatpurot.com/2024/02/03/review-wigwam-being-1974/ )
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More Genesis - "Supper's Ready" (part iii and iv), including a very strong anti-war statement, Foxtrot (1972)
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Genesis - "Harold the Barrel", including some criticism of media, Nursery Cryme (1971)
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Jethro Tull - "Wind-Up", critical in relation to organized religion in UK, Aqualung (1971) Yes - "The Gates of Delirium", this side-long epic is about absurdity of the Vietnam war, Relayer (1974) Edited by David_D - August 14 2024 at 16:57 |
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Aphrodite's Child - 666 (1972) As I see it, there's some stuff in this double, concept album made in the time of military junta in Greece (1967-74), which can be interpreted and considered as political. Edited by David_D - August 12 2024 at 14:47 |
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Alphataurus - s/t (1973), I don't know what the lyrics are about on this album, but the artwork definitely tells that it's at least partly anti-war
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I'd say, "Strange Is This World" is a political song, broadly defined, in the matter of its concern, and also because ideologically speaking, it expresses liberalistic stressing of the power of people's will. |
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Hi, That's OK ... you can play the ostrich in my book ... without even knowing/understanding each situation. I have posted my details and stories in a couple of places, but some folks like you are not specially attuned to reading for the important details. I'm not some kind of lunatic wanting bullets flying over my head day and night ... literal or figuratively ... as Sam Kenniston said about the poor blacks in Africa ... get them a suitcase! ... I imagine that for you "political prog" is just another comic book idea with pictures for you to enjoy! It makes better sense on your comments!
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Here's the original version of Niemen's "Dziwny Jest Ten Swiat" translated to English by Google Translate and slightly corrected by me, as I think it's better than the English version quoted in this thread before: Czeslaw Niemen - "Strange Is This World" where still so much evil resides. And strange is that for so many years, Man has despised Man. Strange is this world, the world of human affairs, sometimes it is embarrassing to admit it. And yet it is often the case that someone kills with an evil word as if with a knife. But there are most people of the good will and I strongly believe that this world will never perish thanks to them. No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! The time has come, it is high time to destroy hatred in yourself. (from the album Strange Is This World (1967)) Not Prog but it's a great song and to me, it's first and foremost about the belief that despite all the evil, the "people of the good will" will ensure the further existence of the human world. Edit: Or it's maybe more an appeal to conflicting parts to overcome hatred, compromise and solve the conflicts - a kind of flower power message.
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As said so many times before, easy to stay away.
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