2024 What is still the best Prog Rock band ever?

CosmicVibration wrote: Magma

Magma would be my choice. It kicked off with a remarkable, kick-ass double-album debut in 1970 (there is no better debut in "Prog" for me), and has been releasing very strong studio albums and doing incredible concerts until contemporary times. Vander is a beast!

YES - The Quest to find the best Prog Rock band ever is over!

Cristi wrote: DarksideofAbel wrote: So no prog at all before ITCOTCK? Really? No, I don't really agree with that I'm afraid. KC is in my top 10 (maybe even top 5) but not my favorite.   Well, I see the Nice, Floyd, The Moodies Blues, Traffic, Zappa had debut albums in 1967!, however was that prog? in my humble opinion I don't think so!! that was a mix o psychedelia music, avant garde , fusion? acid rock? O whatever it was called?. Crimson made the first real prog rock album with all the correct ingredients.  So what are the correct ingredients?!

TheGazzardian wrote: GoodDay wrote: I hear you for sure, but.... the rawness that is so strongly felt in early prog and psychedelic rock does not exist after the 70's, sadly. It's hard (if not impossible) to fake that authenticity and the overproduction of modern music is not only an insult to what music is supposed to be but also to my sensibilities and every other music lovers sensibilities. It's almost like the greed of the 80's seeped into our collective soul or psyche or whatever and destroyed us from the inside out... making 99% of us incapable of creating or appreciating art So everyone who likes music you don't is not a music lover, or else their sensibilities would be just as upset as yours? Any arbitrary cut off and claim of 'purity' / 'authenticity' will be flawed, it's not like Jan 1, 1980 rolled around (or any date for that matter) and a global switch was flipped that changed how everyone produced music. Trends come and go, some we like, some we don't, but music lovers the world over enjoy things that you don't and don't enjoy things that you do. Learning to appreciate different things in music makes you more of a music lover, imo, not less of one.

GoodDay wrote: I hear you for sure, but.... the rawness that is so strongly felt in early prog and psychedelic rock does not exist after the 70's, sadly. It's hard (if not impossible) to fake that authenticity and the overproduction of modern music is not only an insult to what music is supposed to be but also to my sensibilities and every other music lovers sensibilities. It's almost like the greed of the 80's seeped into our collective soul or psyche or whatever and destroyed us from the inside out... making 99% of us incapable of creating or appreciating art

Magma

I still need new music. You can't invalidate anything just because it suits you. The progressive rock movement never ended and there is no supposed 'cut off' when it ground to a halt. I remember listening to IQ in the early 80's and realising it was more important to me that the flowery literary references of Genesis that never hit home. I needed something raw and visceral and relevant to my state of mind at the time. I also still listen to Marillion and tracks like Forgotten Songs and Fugazi are totally timeless. Sure the 80's mainstream scene was very plastic but the likes of Kate Bush and a few others were still making interesting music. Nowadays there is a helluva lot of great prog some coming from other countries adding their own distinct flavour and ideas. I will keep on listening and not even close to getting bored with music. If I'm some kind of a heathen incapable of appreciating art then so be it. I don't care!

ProgSynonym wrote: Saperlipopette! wrote: ProgSynonym wrote: Saperlipopette! wrote: ^I've owned that one for decades as well and yes it's a stronger contender than USA. Beautiful album. But while the sound is just right, all the songs are relatively short and underdeveloped (as compared to ambitious prog compositions) so for me another building block, like early Moody Blues, Procol Harum, Zappa, Deep Purple and many more. In the Court... is simply a differnt beast all together (imo). Everything that would become 1970's Prog Rock can be found there. A musical revolution of sorts. Like Bitches Brew was for Jaz Rock Fusion (although there's albums released before, that paved way for it) Yo dawg, if you’re lookin’ for some more tunes from the groovy era of progressive rock, I’d suggest you check out 'Ars Longa Vita Brevis' by The Nice. Man, this album from ‘68 is a total vibe for all you music lovers out there, especially if you dig those albums from the early phase of prog-rock. Yo, grab your headphones and get ready to vibe to those sick tunes by The Nice, man! Buckle up for a gnarly journey through the history of progressive music, dude! 'Ars Longa Vita Brevis,' droppin’ in ‘68, is like the OG of the sick sounds you’d hear in the Prog Rock scene of the ‘70s. This album came out a year before 'In the Court of the Crimson King' blew up, and it’s a total time capsule of musical genius and mind-blowing vibes. The Nice’s 'Ars Longa Vita Brevis' is like a hidden treasure that set the stage for that signature Prog Rock sound. By vibin’ with this album, you’ll really get a feel for where this genre came from and how it evolved. Yo dawg. If I wasn't already aware of The Nice I wouldn't (or shouldn't) be so self confident about knowing my stuff. Before you make another comeback with... oh I don't know something like 50 Foot Hose - Cauldron - maybe you should look up the meaning of the word calcify. You obviously don't have to agree with me, but I've listened to pretty much everything of relevance, and my opinion is based on an extensive knowledge of the era. Don't get me wrong, Ars Longa Vita Brevis is Progressive Rock, and I think of a lot of albums from 1966-1969 qualifies as such. But when I wrote: Saperlipopette! wrote: I do think that what "we" normally think of as classic Prog Rock was calcified with ITCOTCK. ...that's exactly what I mean by it. Compared to KC's debut, that The Nice album was a dead end. It's not the sound of what Prog Rock was to become. In the Court... is. Bro, ‘In the Court of the Crimson King’ really sets that same vibe as what evolved into ‘In the Wake of Poseidon’, man. But already ‘Lizard’ is like on a whole different wave compared to ItCotCK and ItWoP, while on the other side of the proggy spectrum, Emerson, Lake & Palmer, along with a whole bunch of other keys-driven bands, just kept that groovy sound rolling from ‘68 with The Nice all the way through the late ‘70s, you dig?

Gordy wrote: Saperlipopette! wrote: Yeah, Fripp and his everchanging King Crimson moved on and evolved into something different. Everyone knows. You don't seem to actually read what I've writen before you reply with something of little relevance to the point I'm trying to get across - so now it's time for me to move on as well. That's Svetonio for you!

Saperlipopette! wrote: Yeah, Fripp and his everchanging King Crimson moved on and evolved into something different. Everyone knows. You don't seem to actually read what I've writen before you reply with something of little relevance to the point I'm trying to get across - so now it's time for me to move on as well.

That's Svetonio for you!

Edited by Gordy - June 10 2024 at 03:32