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Kris_man
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Topic: DT vs Symphony X Posted: October 29 2005 at 23:14 |
I LOVE both of them, they got me into prog rock, prog metal in particular. I still haven't come across anyone else who can quite match them. That said, I didn't want to shirk out of making a choice, so I went Symphony X. Not because they're any better or worse than Dream Theater, but just because I like their style more - the classical influences, the epic choruses, etc.
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W.Chuck
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Posted: October 29 2005 at 22:45 |
I just wondered because you talk as if you've never heard Russell before...
So, you mentioned Russell is a heavy metal singer...
Symphony X does a lot of progressive power metal, that's the reason why he sings in that style.
That doesn't mean that he doesn't fit into other stuff,
he would also be a perfect pop-singer and he also perfectly fits into progressive music...
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AtLossForWords
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Posted: October 29 2005 at 22:18 |
W.Chuck wrote:
...I can't believe it... Could you please stop telling such foolish stuff if you obviously don't even know Russell Allen... |
I have five Symphony X cds and Ayreon's Universal Migrator, so i guess i've never heard Russell Allen before...
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"Mastodon sucks giant monkey balls."
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Snow Dog
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Posted: October 29 2005 at 20:49 |
Yeah.......laBrie and DT!
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W.Chuck
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Posted: October 29 2005 at 20:28 |
...I can't believe it...
Could you please stop telling such foolish stuff if you obviously don't even know Russell Allen...
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AtLossForWords
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Posted: October 29 2005 at 19:55 |
W.Chuck wrote:
Russell Allen has a greater range than James LaBrie... Listen to "Lady of the Snow" or "Candlelight Fantasia" and then to "Inferno" or "Incantations of the Apprentice". And I now not that much singers who can hold a tone that long like Russell Allen... He has much more sustain than James LaBrie will ever have and furthermore Russell Allen sings much more soulful, feeling and much more pleasant. |
Soulfull singing, how about what James does on Learning to Live or the entire Scenes From a Memory album? Russell Allen is a typical heavy metal singer in a progressive band, James LaBrie is just an all around great progressive vocalist singing in more progressive projects.
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W.Chuck
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Posted: October 29 2005 at 19:31 |
Russell Allen has a greater range than James LaBrie...
Listen to "Lady of the Snow" or "Candlelight Fantasia"
and then to "Inferno" or "Incantations of the Apprentice". And I now not that much singers who can hold a tone that long like Russell Allen... He has much more sustain than James LaBrie will ever have and furthermore Russell Allen sings much more soulful, feeling and much more pleasant.
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AtLossForWords
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Posted: October 29 2005 at 19:18 |
W.Chuck wrote:
hmpf this is no question of taste: Russell Allen is far better than James LaBrie... |
That's totally wrong. Rusell Allen has a better lower range than James that is about it. James LaBrie has much more high range, much better sustain, and much better enunciation. James LaBrie dosen't have the bad gruff overtones that Russell Allen has. James LaBrie is a very versitile vocalist and fits all of his bands perfectly. I can't picture anyone else as a proper singer for Dream Theater.
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Posted: October 29 2005 at 17:05 |
As much as I like Symphony X I have to say Dream Theatre, easily. I dont think any prog-metal band can come close to DT, early DT anyway
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W.Chuck
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Posted: October 29 2005 at 14:06 |
hmpf
this is no question of taste:
Russell Allen is far better than James LaBrie...
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Wolf Spider
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Posted: October 29 2005 at 14:02 |
LaBrie=Allen
Every single DT member>every single SX member
the winner 5:1 is Dream Theater. Congratulations guys
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W.Chuck
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Posted: October 29 2005 at 13:11 |
Symphony X mainstream??? hahahaha...
A lot of songs by DT are mainstream,
maybe 2 by SX...
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Suki
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Posted: October 29 2005 at 12:18 |
drumsandbass wrote:
DT all the way. They were the first metal band i got into as well as Prog Metal. Symphony X is jsut too mainstream sounding in my opinion. Plus DT has Portnoy and Petrucci! Tremendous amount of skill. |
What about Rudess?
My first Prog Metal experience was also DT. I also do not find what is so mainstream in Symphony X. There're some songs which indeed are a bit mainstreamish, yet, there is the same thing in DT.
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Drew
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Posted: October 29 2005 at 12:15 |
Drew wrote:
Both |
I havnt changed my mind yet........BOTH!
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W.Chuck
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Posted: October 29 2005 at 12:05 |
Dream Theater are quite good. Nice musicians except James LaBrie (I think he's quite ennerving) but Symphony X are far better in my opinion.
Symphony X are incredible good song writers and they know when to stop and they hold back then. Dream Theater exhausts everything to much very often. It comes across as if their only aim ist time and speed in many songs, anyhow they are really good but not as good as Symphony X.
Technically they are both on the same level although I prefer Michael Romeo's and Michael Pinnella's style cause it's not just about speed (Dream Theater are also not all about speed but very often in fact).
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daghrastubfari
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Posted: October 29 2005 at 12:01 |
Progmetal isn't my kind of prog (except for avant-progmetal like Fantômas)
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BePinkTheater
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Posted: October 29 2005 at 11:46 |
obviously dreamtheater
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I can strangle a canary in a tin can and it would be really original, but that wouldn't save it from sounding like utter sh*t.
-Stone Beard
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Posted: October 29 2005 at 08:24 |
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
B O T H. |
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RIO/AVANT/ZEUHL - The best thing you can get with yer pants on!
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: October 29 2005 at 08:10 |
B O T H.
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JayDee
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Posted: October 29 2005 at 04:37 |
JesusBetancourt wrote:
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
JesusBetancourt wrote:
TheProgtologist wrote:
Best _______ vs _________ poll yet!!!!
I picked "I like them both"
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Well, you know what I picked
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Just out of curiosity: Why did you create this poll if you like neither of those two bands?
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Well, thats becouse I feel that Ive always been hard on prog-metal fans and I feel that I should atleast do something for them becouse even though our definitions of prog may differ, we still consider ourselves prog lovers and that my friend is what counts. In the end we are all the same no matter what genre of prog one prefers and trust me if there were ever a debate on other musical forms(Rap, pop, etc) we will all be fighting on the same side.
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hey bro! nice!
both bands are great! i picked both!!!!
have all their sutdio,live albums and bootlegs.... sweet!
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