Blaxit - Black Americans Moving to Africa - Progressive Rock Music Forum

Originally posted by TheEliteExtremophile

TheEliteExtremophile wrote:

Sean Trane wrote:

Apparently they're blind about Africa; because if there is one continent plagued by "ethnicism" or racism, it's there. (Let alone the North African/black Africa racial frontiers)

I've always found it weird how they denounce they European-driven slavery (lasted 300 years and helped/encouraged by the local tribes *), but fail to mention the Muslim-driven slavery (from Morocco to Pakistan) which lasted over 1000 years and is still going on today.

*: explain to me how twenty whites poorly armed (those riffles needed two minutes to recharge them) can go 300 km inland and come back with entire tribes as prisoners without any local assistance.

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I don't think most folks would fail to denounce any slave trade. But the reason the Trans-Atlantic slave trade gets so much discussion in the US is because that is the slave trade that brought enslaved Africans to the New World. The point you've made is a whataboutism. It's like if an Irish person complained about British colonialism, and you responded with, "Yeah, well why aren't you denouncing the Japanese occupation of Korea starting in the late 1800s?"

I've rebuilt my post that you edited in order to make your whataboutit fallacy point, Mr. Woke Tongue

All I've said in answer to MSF's post was that they are selectively blind (or have not encountered yet) internal African racism, when making these statements.

And in no way was I excusing the Transatlantic slave trade, simply specifying that there was (and stull is) a TransIndianOcean slave trade)

The other point is that the Civil rights movement made an anti-white move (justifiable), in rejecting the god & religion of the "whities" (on the moon would say Gill Scott Heron) , but but went to Nation Of Islam (as if it was not the same "god" of the whities being referred to), which has treated blacks/Africans just as bad as white/Europeans have, and for a longer time.

Malcolm X was so wrong after his pilgrimage to Mecca (which he said was full of white people - and he wasn't talking of the color of djellabas) and all of those 60/70's Afro-American jazz heroes from mine (from Herbie to McCoy to Pharoah) taking up "local" names and "religions" or even Jamaica's Rastafari stuff (Ethiopian angelism) is simply blind.

It's not the first time Afro-Americans went back to Mother Africa: they (B&W) even built a country there, called Liberia, (look it up, if you wish) which has been plagued by all the Afro-centric racial & corruption issues - despite having been in contact and helped by a democracy (however imperfect the USA might be one back in the XIXth C). Actually it was probably the only US-colony in Africa.

let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter
keep our sand-castle virtues
content to be a doer
as well as a thinker,
prefer lifting our pen
rather than un-sheath our sword

Best of luck to any migrant, but leaving home for another country is no picnic. It is a shattering, disorienting experience that should only be taken if necessary.

"Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." -- John F. Kennedy

The point you've made is a whataboutism.

I agree with you, TEE! After watching an educational video on whataboutism, that fallacy would always stick out to me. B)

Edited by Hrychu - February 20 2024 at 09:43

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Apparently they're blind about Africa; because if there is one continent plagued by "ethnicism" or racism, it's there. (Let alone the North African/black Africa racial frontiers)

I've always found it weird how they denounce they European-driven slavery (lasted 300 years and helped/encouraged by the local tribes *), but fail to mention the Muslim-driven slavery (from Morocco to Pakistan) which lasted over 1000 years and is still going on today.

*: explain to me how twenty whites poorly armed (those riffles needed two minutes to recharge them) can go 300 km inland and come back with entire tribes as prisoners without any local assistance.

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Edited by Sean Trane - February 20 2024 at 01:49

let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter
keep our sand-castle virtues
content to be a doer
as well as a thinker,
prefer lifting our pen
rather than un-sheath our sword