Led Zeppelin?

Oh please ¡¡. If people keep looking for bands to be included in this site for making a few songs "out of the ordinary". Which in fact are nothing but quality songs, one day we´ll be reading on every band in history with the single exception of "The Ramones".

 Stop wondering ¡¡¡. That´s why we have now Purple, Uriah heep, Queen and many more that once wrote a song with a shine of creativity. Each genre received a name for a reason.

 Dude #1.-  "Ey ¡¡¡. Did you listen to that?...WOW ¡¡, that was a 9/6 signature (Or whatever, I don´t understand music that well), right there from minute 2:35 to 2:39....could this be prog?

 Dude #2 thinking.- "What?, I could not say"  saying.- "Yeah it was great. this should be prog"

 Dude #3.- "Have you heard this new prog band ?, they are really amazing, their music has every single prog element"

 Dude #15,000.- "Should The white stripes be in prog archives?"

 Prog archives´ overall list in 3 years from now: "White stripes # 29" (Above Zarathustra) 

 

I am astounded how many people approve of their inclusion.

I agree about Al Di Meola... that is really really strange...

maybe we should create another thread about him

Citanul wrote: Andrea Cortese wrote: Also the historic prog bands had had non prog albums (Yes and Genesis, for example, not VdGG, nor Peter Hammill!). So to be absolutely correct we should remove all their albums that is difficult to fit in the prog category! But Yes and Genesis have a significant proportion of their output that is clearly prog.  Therefore they are included here.  Of course the question arises as to what constitutes a "significant proportion", but feel that Led Zeppelin don't have it.

This is the point, Citanul.

What does constitute "significant proportion"? The expression itself, is only a subjective estimation. Many have tried to make an objective and valid so called "progometer", but miserely failed.

That "significant proportion" you're talking about, would, in your words, give the right to include all the discography of a band...It's exactly what I'm saying about Led Zeppelin, Blue Oyster Cult and Doors!

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Pardon my ignorance, but how many people decide for a new band in the archives???

TheProgtologist wrote: I love Zep but NO.This has been discussed and debated many times over,use the search feature to see how many threads deal with this subject. Again...........NO And IMO the Deep Purple addition was wrong too. And don't start up the whole Queen and Styx debate again,what a mess that was.

Personally I would add Led Zeppelin as prog related and I would not have added Queen. But in my role in the Band Admissions Team I would vote against the inclusion of Led Zeppelin. It's too bad that the team wasn't in place when Queen were added ... I'm sure that they would have been rejected.

I guess it's no use crying over spilled milk ...

It seems to be very personally about an addition from Led Zeppelin! I think it is a matter of time, despite the fact that some reviewers and collaborators are not realy pleased with it. I'm not pleased with lots of additions but I keep on saying that Prog Archives has scooped a precedent by adding bands like Queen, Talk Talk and Radiohead. You can keep on fulminating against an addition of Led Zeppelin but only justice is done when Led Zeppelin has been added to this site because even it's prooved by 'A Progrock Court' that Led Zeppelin only have some progressive moments, they still deserve an addition after Queen, Radiohead, Talk Talk, Deep Purple, Uriah Heep, Vangelis, JM Jarre, etc., etc.,!

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Zeppelin are most certainly worthy of inclusion in prog-archives. Although they are usually lumped in with hard rock/heavy metal, being forerunners, even definers of the genre, they defy this simple catergorisation. For example, Zep III's acoustic songs indicate a folk influence to their music which is developed on the fourth album (i.e. The Battle of Evermore). Houses of the Holy includes the classic No Quarter, a "prog " track if ever there was one, complete with synthesised bass and piano. Okay, got my drift? Let's just list a few more examples: Kashmir, In the Light, Achilles' Last Stand (covered by Dream Theater), Carouselambra.

Not convinced? Are Zep just your straightforward hard rock band? I think not. If experimentation with the form, a pushing of the parameters, and the inclusion of a diverse range of instrumentation is a hallmark of prog-rock then Zeppelin certainly meet the criteria. Many of today's prog-metal bands would acknowledge Zep's influence and inspiration, just ask Dream Theater, Opeth, Porcupine Tree et al. I rest my case.

ello jody i am sorry that i did not reply on the chat as i was away fixing a wireless access point...anyways i would say that Led zeppelin is far from being as progressive as deep purple...just because you like led zeppelin does not mean it is prog