The solo tracks on Fragile |
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Saperlipopette!
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I voted for both: -I have no issue at all and they make the album great -I accept them and don't have a problem with them Yes will never be among my favorites, but I think Fragile is pretty much perfect for what it is - and a nice, full album experience.
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A very late reply... I must have missed it when originally written. Yeah, I know the live at Hampton album/DVD... I actually was there, by some very fortunate coincidence (on the previous night to the one recorded for the DVD), and my version of the CD was actually recorded the very night and given at the end of the concert (with really great sound, I don't understand why live albums can take so long to come out if they can actually have them ready in less than an hour). I guess the song that should have been Henry in the original album would have been Defender of the Faith... but are you sure it was that very same song? Or was it just planned back then, but not written until it was time to finally be able to include it for this concert? |
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I thought I had responded to this topic before, but it must have been a topic with the same theme. Fragile is the most significant Yes album to me (and one of the first albums I ever bought) and I like having those pieces. I like diversity, and while it can interrupt the flow, it's more in a good way. the just juxtaposition can add contrast, dramatic tension and release and heighten a mood. It present varied moods for the day, one might say, and I give it the clap for that (to reference another song, this time by AC/DC).
"The Fish (Schindleria praematurus)" is a highlight of the album for me, and it acts like a kind of coda to "Long Distance Runaround". I also love "We Have Heaven" and I love the contrast when going into "South Side of the Sky" as then it hits you harder. I'll vote for they make the album more interesting, and actually they help to make this Yes' best album for me. |
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They make the album more interesting. They're actual songs, unlike other albums where the shorter tracks are simply transitions.
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I'm not really fussed about the solo tracks, a I have commented elsewhere for my digital playlist of Fragile I've discarded the 5 short solo tracks and tacked on 'America' for a more satisfying listen.
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Interesting stuff He had other tracks that didn't make it onto Six Wives , the record company vetoed 'Henry' because they didn't want to spoil the concept/idea that the album was about the wives and not him. Not sure of time lines but I wonder if that could have made it to Fragile (btw you can find it on the live Wakeman DVD where he performs Six Wives at Hampton Court Palace, highly recommended and one of my most played Blu Rays)
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"I never thought about it until I saw people complain online". "The Fish (Shindleria Praematurus)" is one of my favorite tracks on the album, "We Have Heaven" serves as an introduction to "South Side Of The Sky", my favourite track on the album, and the others I never really thought about one way or the other. I do love "Fragile" as it is and wouldn't change any of it.
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I've always liked "Mood for a Day" but for the most part Fragile seems more disjointed than The Yes Album or CttE, and I think Fragile is a slightly lesser Yes album sandwiched between two greater albums. Still a very good album, but there are things I ignore on Fragile.
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I think the album is more interesting with these additions, even some of them I really appreciate. Wakeman's classical arrangement on "Can and Brahms", Howe's virtuosity on "Mood for a Day" and Squire's bass on "Fish" don't seem to me to be disconnected from the backbone themes of the album, even having a life of their own. I love them.
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I like all the solo tracks even five percent
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I never found them to be much of a problem for the quality of the album. Yeah, the group tracks are the ones that make the album great, but the solo ones are either too short to do harm or actually good in their own right. Five Percent is indeed too short, if you get distracted you might actually miss it. We Have Heaven actually sounds nice (even if weird) as an intro track for South Side. Mood for a Day is a very good track by its own right. The Fish, though by itself might sound out of place, actually completes very nicely Long Distance Runaround, both of which sound as if they were one only song, and both of which benefit from being attached to the other. That leaves Wakeman's one, which is perhaps the most forgettable (besides Five Percent), though not particularly bad. Still, I wish he had been able to use what became Catherin of Aragon in Fragile, as I understand was the original intention, but couldn't be done so because Wakeman's own label wouldn't let him have writing credits with Yes (that song actually features the whole Yes instrumental line-up)... that would have made Fragile even greater than it is (though that track would have been sorely missed in Six Wives).
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Yep maybe but mostly they are not long enough to make a big difference and Chris Squire's offering is rather good so I wouldn't remove that.
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Of course I meant Mood for a Day. I fixed it now.
A little trivia though. The initial recording combined both but then Steve decided to make it two tracks which might explain why a live version of Clap is on TYA.
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They help make the album great.
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Howe's Mood For Day in on Fragile and not Clap, as that's on TYA. They kind of ruin the album, though I like Anderson's We Have Heaven. Just imagine that we could've had another 9-mins epic instead of those useless pieces : something close to Southside of the Runaround. Or better yet: S&G's America .
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Idk... this seems a little redundant
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Yeah. Clap is not on Fragile. The author probably meant Mood for a Day. Honestly, I don't mind the solo tracks that much. I do think 5% for nothing would've been better had it been developed into a full song and also that Cans & Brams has too much of a "muzak" or "street barrel organ" feel for me to enjoy it as much as the fully fleshed out songs on Fragile, like HotS or SSotS.
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Options 2, 3, 9, 12 and 13 are applicable for me.
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Fragile must be one of the best sounding albums ever. It's a little bit grainy but equally as clear as a bell. On headphones it rules. I also think that Yes never played better. The interplay is quite extraordinary. Greatest 5 peice line up ever imo. Of course the 3 centre piece tracks rule the album but the rest cannot and does not spoil it. Arguably it's also the most eclectic Yes album and that adds to the fun. 4.999/5
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Other: Rick Wakeman rules!
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