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    Posted: November 07 2023 at 10:25
Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Actually, I'm inspired by the pre-1989 Polish political underground.
Which by the way, also was evident in Rock music, but maybe only in Polish lyrics and anyway, difficult to understand 
if not being very familiar with the historical circumstances.
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Actually, I'm inspired by the pre-1989 Polish political underground.
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David_D, man of mystery.

Follow his crumbs down the road of futility.
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Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

^ Or you're just too lazy and unable to communicate effectively.

Well, someones find that I've been communicating too much lately. Big smile
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^ Or you're just too lazy and unable to communicate effectively.

Edited by MikeEnRegalia - November 03 2023 at 05:01
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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Let it be a little mystery then...unless someones know me better. Big smile
Or it would be better if I said: ...unless someones know better where to look. Big smile
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Let it be a little mystery then...unless someones know me better. Big smile
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^ Well, I won't search the entire internet, so I guess we'll never know LOL
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Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

^ Not really. I browsed the last pages, and did not find any comment of yours that would suggest an answer to my question.

That was neither the best place to look. Big smile
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^ Not really. I browsed the last pages, and did not find any comment of yours that would suggest an answer to my question.
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Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

So the question is: Can propaganda be used to advance an ideology, if it represents values you approve of? Or put more simply: Do the ends justify the means?

By now, I guess, you can guess my answer.
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Here's some in-depth info on just a little bit of recent bullsh*tting. Also a good example of great investigative journalism! https://open.substack.com/pub/dossier/p/douglas-macgregor-advanced-fake-gaza
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^ Yes. It should be noted that all the major news outlets in the US (and elsewhere, too) are entertainment channels. CNN do not exist primarily to inform people accurately and neutrally of what is happening around the world - they exist to make money from advertising. To maximise revenue it naturally follows that they try to present content that a large group of the population appreciates and agrees with. If the content presented was neutral and unbiased, they would probably lose viewers who tune in with the expectation to have their worldview confirmed (no alarms and no surprises). Same for Fox on the other "side" of the many-faced coin which is the global uniparty system in the West. LOL
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All media is propaganda.
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Originally posted by I prophesy disaster I prophesy disaster wrote:

Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

However, people are also using wikipedia to look up hot topics like the history of the state of Israel, the Ukraine war, Covid 19, and so on. It is these topics that we are discussing here. On those, I would say, Wikipedia is just as unreliable as any major news outlet, but whereas it is obvious that news outlets are biased, Wikipedia appears like a neutral source, which makes it worse IMHO.
 
Why do you think Wikipedia is unreliable on the topic of COVID-19? I read about COVID-19 in Wikipedia. Because I have a scientific background, I very much took an interest in the technical details of the coronavirus as well as the vaccines developed for the coronavirus. I saw no reason to question the veracity of the information presented in the articles. I accept that the scientific researchers who are working on the virus are in a better position to know the truth about the virus and any treatments than anybody else.
 
It should be noted that claims of bias generally require facts to validate them. Bias is a distortion of the truth in favour of the bias and therefore needs the facts to determine if a distortion has actually occurred. In other words, if the facts themselves favour the opposition, this is not bias, but may be an indication that one has chosen the wrong side. But where is one getting the facts in order to justify a claim of bias? In order to claim bias in Wikipedia, one needs a source of information that is more reliable than Wikipedia. What is such a source? Nobody is saying that Wikipedia is perfect. The real question is whether Wikipedia is a useful source of information, and can we forgive any shortcomings that we know exists.
 
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Government overreach in the US south: "Revenuers done tore down the still again dag nabbit!"
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^ Well said. Clap
 
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Cindy, I'd say, there is in general much manipulation of "regular folks into making decisions against their own personal interests...and 
to enrich the rich and powerful. ", but I have not seen it in Wikipedia. On the contrary, my impression is that they care much about 
interests of common people.
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^ Strange definition of bullsh*t you have there.
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Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

^ Yeah, like here in Sweden where they have disabled the police forces and the health care system ... LOL

I mean in historical perspective and not just the last 30-40 years... don't bullsh*t. LOL
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