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    Posted: June 17 2023 at 13:38
In doing my interactive playlist threads on new wave and Chamber rock, I feel the type of music influences how I listen. A lot of new wave is much more fun to listen as a playlist or shuffle of individual tracks. And that may be in part of how I was exposed to new wave, mainly through MTV. While chamber rock, as I learn about new to me artists, feels preferable to follow up by listening to full albums.

Technology is a factor. In my teens through my mid thirties, there was no random shuffle until the iPod.iPad. I would have some mix tapes and CDs but now I make digital playlists and can bring songs in and out. Most playlists that I make don't involve prog.

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It depends, mostly albums if I have the time to listen to a full one (and if I can think of a full one I'd want to listen to). But surely even the most die-hard album people sometimes just want to listen to a specific song or don't feel like sitting through a whole album?

While I definitely feel like you're missing something if you don't listen to whole albums, keep in mind that albums are also constructed in a somewhat coincidental manner oftentimes. Songs may be written as songs, not necessarily as part of an album, and what ends up on an album often times is dependent on what an artist/band had lying around at that time or what was fully developed or even what fits on two 20-minute sides. Songs are usually played live out of order as well. So while I prefer albums overall, I don't think it's necessarily the only way they're meant to be heard.

I also think random shuffle can be pretty fun. You get some interesting juxtapositions at times, and you'll hear some songs you wouldn't normally listen to too often, or just haven't heard in a while for whatever reason.

Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

I don't sit through an album uninterrupted anymore. In my teenage years (mid 70's) we would listen to albums, but everyone was making mix tapes. Now that I'm retired most of my listening is done walking the dog and it's difficult to get through a 60+ minute album.
The solution is to just stick with albums from before the CD era.

In all seriousness, I also barely listen to full 60+ minute albums. I tend to just treat them as double albums, so I listen to the first or second half, usually. I also usually split up my first listen to double albums over two evenings. If I'm listening to something something for the first time, it can be a bit hard to appreciate everything when you're listening for more than an hour.
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I've only listened to shuffle by mistake and turned it off as soon as I notice. New, yet unheard music I will rarely finish. Most of what I try out I won't connect with. I really do check out "everything" though, as everytihing interests me. From abstract Hip-Hop to South East Asian music of the 78rpm-era and Ghanian Highlife etc...Quite a few of those will be compilations or mixtapes anyway, so the full album is compiled by a curator, not the artist. I think I understand differnent kinds of music well enough to know when it's time to just let something new to me should get -or deserves a full first listening or not. I don't just skip through a Deep Listening album. But I might give up on some kind of prog album in less than five minutes (I would of course not pretend I really know the music - or review it).
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Originally posted by JD JD wrote:

Stadium concerts fell off my life plan long ago.
So here's a question for you...
What's the biggest name you've seen in the smallest venue, smallest audience?

I can think of a couple... I saw Spock's Beard do their first UK show back in around 1999 (Day For Night) in a school hall in Rotherham with about 500 people there...

I also saw Riverside do their first UK show back in 2007 (Rapid Eye) in the community hall in Lydney with about 200 people there...


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I rarely listen to new releases other than on shuffle moad. Typically albums are now 55 minutes plus compared to the standard 40-45 minutes in the vinyl era. I occasionally though buy vinyl and then listen to a whole album properly. However i rely on streaming most of the time. I do have 'fomo' which is why shuffle is good for me!

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Always full albums unless I’m looking for new music. Single tracks feels like watching 1/10 of a movie. I never use shuffle or mix my own playlists.
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In the early 80s I saw the Great Fatsby, Leslie West of Mountain, playing at a keg party in a VFW Hall in River Rouge, Michigan. And if you were ever in River Rouge, Michigan, you would certainly say, as I did when he started playing in a corner of the hall (no stage), "What the f*ck is he doing here?"
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Necrotica Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 15 2023 at 18:48
Originally posted by JD JD wrote:

Stadium concerts fell off my life plan long ago.
So here's a question for you...
What's the biggest name you've seen in the smallest venue, smallest audience?

For me, that would probably be Natalie Prass in 2019. She's a pretty popular figure in modern sophisti-pop and indie pop, but when I saw her, it was in a nice cushy theater in her hometown. Really fun show, and I got to meet her afterwards! Smile




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Originally posted by JD JD wrote:

Stadium concerts fell off my life plan long ago.
So here's a question for you...
What's the biggest name you've seen in the smallest venue, smallest audience?
If you consider him a big name, Allan Holdsworth. Maybe 70 people at Parody Hall, KC, on the I.O.U. Tour. Or National Health, Lawrence Opera House, the same amount of people. Both were incredible!
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Ah...for me, Bruford and Moraz for their first album tour. A 250 seat auditorium with maybe 25-30 people in attendance.
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^ That'll probably be a Danish band or artist, because you don't usually get to hear big international names on small venues here.


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Stadium concerts fell off my life plan long ago.
So here's a question for you...
What's the biggest name you've seen in the smallest venue, smallest audience?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote The Anders Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 15 2023 at 16:39
^ I can enjoy jazz concerts too. I may also like more intimate concerts with smaller pop or rock artists, provided that the audience is relatively cultivated. But stadium concerts are a big no-no for me, and when I attended rock festivals many years ago, I couldn't care less about big names. I went to hear musicians who played on the smaller stages, many of whom I had never heard of before.
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^Fair enough. For me it's blues and jazz live that I prefer over classical, but live music in general always turns my crank. Thumbs Up
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote The Anders Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 15 2023 at 16:20
^ Well, that's basically what I meant. Still, to me, seeing and hearing the musicians play live adds something extra.
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Originally posted by The Anders The Anders wrote:

I'd say, there are very many ways you can listen to music. I will only speak for myself here.

If it is classical music, I usually prefer live performances over recordings. After all, that's how most of it was intended (of course, the moment we get to musique concrete or the like, things look a bit different), and I very rarely buy classical recordings - unless it has some historic significance like, say, a uni"que performance by the Berlin Philharmonics.
To be clear, this was only because when "Classical Music" was first realized, there was no means of recording. So that comment doesn't resonate with me. (tee-hee, see what I did there). Listening to a quality recording of a well performed classical piece can be a thing of beauty ! I don't need to experience it live. In essence, it is live as I doubt any orchestra of any repute would even attempt overdubs.
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Depends on the song/track or album.
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Originally posted by Gentle and Giant Gentle and Giant wrote:

Albums. I always play an album from beginning to end whatever the format; I've never used a playlist either.

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I'd say, there are very many ways you can listen to music. I will only speak for myself here.

If it is classical music, I usually prefer live performances over recordings. After all, that's how most of it was intended (of course, the moment we get to musique concrete or the like, things look a bit different), and I very rarely buy classical recordings - unless it has some historic significance like, say, a unique performance by the Berlin Philharmonics.

I can also enjoy concerts with more restrained genres like folk music or singer/songwriter. But as far as pop or rock goes, I usually prefer recorded music, among other things because I don't enjoy pop or rock concerts very much - especially not if the audience members are drunk. I'm more keen on the "be quiet and listen carefully" culture of classical music than the "make some noise" culture of popular music.

Whether it has to be single tracks or albums depends on the circumstances. Of course, if it is a concept album, or if it is meant to be heard in its full length, I will usually do that. I would never want to listen to, say, "On the Run" or "Any Colour You Like" as single tracks, because I don't think they really make sense as such. But I wouldn't mind listening to "London Calling" or "Smells Like Teen Spirit" as tracks. I wouldn't mind listening to the whole albums either. And then of course there are all the 60's singles that weren't intended as album tracks at all.


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^ However, I do download single tracks from YouTube.
 

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