Classic Rock Bands Still Popular To Youth?

Saperlipopette! wrote: If I were to listen to mom and dad, I wouldn't have exposed myself to anything heavier than Pink Floyd or Queen. They thought Stairway to Heaven was very beautiful up until they ruin the mood with that brutally rockin' ending.

This is hilarious!!

^ And if were to listen to the type of music mum and dad liked, I'd be listening to:

Edited by I prophesy disaster - June 06 2023 at 04:47

Jacob Schoolcraft wrote: I don't see Jimmy Page or John Bonham as outstanding musicians. It has little to do with liking or disliking their music. It's subjective. A matter of taste. In Vineland, New Jersey and Millville, New Jersey in particular the mentality is as such that there is no other Rock band. People just assume Led Zeppelin are the greatest Rock band on the planet. Song Remains The Same ( the live album) is by far the worse live album in Rock. Jimmy Page sounds like a child frustrated with the pentatonic scale and Robert Plant is a horrible Rock singer imo. John Bonham and John Paul Jones are the only ones holding that performance together. The guitar playing is horribly sloppy and inefficient to the tightness of the music. Jimmy Page holds the guitar below his knee caps . A pretty stupid concept or idea when trying to play fast riffing or even rhythm for that matter. Ok he plays a series of note patterns across the fretboard, but what good is it when they are being played choppy and sloppy? He has no finesse. But it's OK for Jimmy Page to play like that right? That's exceptable right? Young guitar students spend endless grinding hours practicing to master a fluent guitar style and then they're expected to play the sloppiest Page solo ? And if they did people would praise them and say they did a great job and why do you think that is? Because it's Led Zeppelin right? What if they got sloppy playing a Steve Howe solo would that be accepted too? No it wouldn't but Page's horrible guitar playing is and that's reality. In Vineland and Millville New Jersey the mentality over the years developed into...." Well my Mom and Dad were smart and they listened to Led Zeppelin " "And they said that Led Zeppelin were the greatest Rock band on the planet..so it must make sense" Right so then never think for yourself and take everybody's word for it...okay...

I don't see Jimmy Page or John Bonham as outstanding musicians. It has little to do with liking or disliking their music. It's subjective. A matter of taste.

In Vineland, New Jersey and Millville, New Jersey in particular the mentality is as such that there is no other Rock band. People just assume Led Zeppelin are the greatest Rock band on the planet. Song Remains The Same ( the live album) is by far the worse live album in Rock. Jimmy Page sounds like a child frustrated with the pentatonic scale and Robert Plant is a horrible Rock singer imo.

John Bonham and John Paul Jones are the only ones holding that performance together. The guitar playing is horribly sloppy and inefficient to the tightness of the music. Jimmy Page holds the guitar below his knee caps . A pretty stupid concept or idea when trying to play fast riffing or even rhythm for that matter.

Ok he plays a series of note patterns across the fretboard, but what good is it when they are being played choppy and sloppy? He has no finesse. But it's OK for Jimmy Page to play like that right? That's exceptable right? Young guitar students spend endless grinding hours practicing to master a fluent guitar style and then they're expected to play the sloppiest Page solo ? And if they did people would praise them and say they did a great job and why do you think that is? Because it's Led Zeppelin right? What if they got sloppy playing a Steve Howe solo would that be accepted too? No it wouldn't but Page's horrible guitar playing is and that's reality.

In Vineland and Millville New Jersey the mentality over the years developed into...." Well my Mom and Dad were smart and they listened to Led Zeppelin " "And they said that Led Zeppelin were the greatest Rock band on the planet..so it must make sense" Right so then never think for yourself and take everybody's word for it...okay...

Jacob Schoolcraft wrote: It's important to acknowledge the fact that they are overrated when compared to other bands of their time.

Edited by Stressed Cheese - June 03 2023 at 04:46

^ Right. Thanks! I had no idea. I guess I thought it was the same as using a lot of exclamation marks!!!!!!

Atavachron wrote: ^^ Wow you really have a Led Zeppelin chip-on-your-shoulder.

Me? Or was it adressed to Jacob Schoolcraft? Led Zeppelin is one of my favorite bands. I, II, III & IV were all among my ten first albums. 

The Dark Elf wrote: Jacob Schoolcraft wrote:   In the music business Led Zeppelin are shoved down your throat. They are overrated in that sense. Just the fact that all the other internationally known Rock musicians are not generally seen in the same light as Led Zeppelin is a silly concept and it lacks glory. Just give Led Zeppelin Park Place and Boardwalk and start the game. It's ignorant stupidity.  I think you have issues that transcend Led Zeppelin. They were a great band, and opposed to your nonsensical take, I am continually pleasantly surprised at all the "reaction" videos on YouTube where younger folks are discovering Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd and Black Sabbath for the first time. The wide-eyed amazement seems genuine. Genuine shock that they have gone most of their lives without hearing these legends of rock, and now they're listening to bands that evidently the older population has taken for granted (or overheard over time).  It's quite interesting to see these millenials hearing "Stairway to Heaven" or "Kashmir" for the first time, and then comparing it to the dross and offal that's flung about as music currently ("Hey, he's actually singing without auto-tune!"). I'm not sure what "music business" you're in that is shoving Led Zeppelin down your throat. I've been in bands since the late 70s...Zeppelin has never been a requirement; in fact, bands that mimicked Zeppelin over time like Kingdom Come, Great White or even today with Greta Van Fleet are often mocked for their Ledded pretensions.

You don't see how they are overrated? I realize that you like them and that's fine. I do see them as a requirement and that's been on going for decades. Even in 2023 with many bar bands in the tri state area.

I understand why they are loved. How could I not? In the early 70s at age 15 my mother showed me all of Page's open tunings and my father guided me through his electric solos. I enjoyed playing Zeppelin material in Rock clubs and concert halls.

I sense the band is overrated by society when compared to other bands in Rock. I remember the band Detective who were signed to Swan Song. They sounded a bit like Zeppelin. Zeppelin had a unique style and Page was a fine writer..but so was Ian Anderson and several others in those times. It's important to acknowledge the fact that they are overrated when compared to other bands of their time.

Atavachron wrote: ^^ Wow you really have a Led Zeppelin chip-on-your-shoulder. I understand your grievances against a band as popular as they were, the illusions of music and show business in general--  Zeppelin can be faulted for a great deal, it's true:  musical poaching, aggressive business tactics, debauchery.   But on a good night they brought it in a way none of their peers could ever consider matching---  not Hendrix, not Floyd, not the Who, not Yes, none of them could match Led Zep's astounding ability to improvise, musically expand, and take bold risks in concert most musicians wouldn't dare trying for fear of failure.   Zep weren't afraid and for that they must pay the price of history's scorn.

Edited by Atavachron - June 02 2023 at 14:50