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    Posted: July 24 2023 at 18:42
1. Arena - Riding the Tide
2. IQ - The Seventh House
3. Genesis - The Cinema Show

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The word solo isnīt out of place in the technicality of a concerto at all. A Concerto is the combination of couplet and ritornell sections. The whole idea of the concerto is the well mannered musical exponation of one instrument, the whole rest of the orchestra just serves these returning sections of a specific instrument (in the case of tarkus the synthesizer) taking the lead interest and also showing off the possibilities of that specific instrument. Only because it is highlighted doesnīt make it any disconnected at all and still have the "sole" most important role. Being the centre of attention.

Btw my favourite solos for keyboard are:

CTTE around 14 minutes (squire creates such incredible spaces for wakeman that he can just totally go nuts and fly.)
nearly everything Fariselli did
Probably something from Minnear.. But I am going for Playing The Game solo (subtle mastery)
Vdgg Darkness keyboard solo in the middle. (though its very different)
Mad Man Moon (if you wanna call that a solo)





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Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

....I always laugh when the OP asks for "3 of your favorite?" and PA members put down 6, or 9, or more!!  

THREE!!  
Everyone knows that, but very few really cares. Most OP's would rather have "a wrong reply" over no reply. I know I would. I think most of us who replies with ten favorites instead of three or whatever does so because selecting only three is impossible.
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....I always laugh when the OP asks for "3 of your favorite?" and PA members put down 6, or 9, or more!!  

THREE!!  
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Originally posted by telefunk telefunk wrote:

Snarky Puppy "Lingus, We Like it Here" live of course. A killer solo
This is probably one of the best improvised solos ever to be recorded. If any of you have not listened to this track, your life is worse off because of it. 
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Supertramp - School
The Doors - Riders On The Storm
Pink Floyd - Shine On You Crazy Diamond

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Snarky Puppy "Lingus, We Like it Here" live of course. A killer solo
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The solo on "A Day at the Dog Races" by Little Feat of course!
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Jordan Rudess - Dream Theater - keyboard solo in budokan, April 26th, 2004.
Adagio - Children of the Dead Lake
Time Requiem - Optical Illusion
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As for favorites, I seemingly don't have a mind that register them as such very often. But the keyboard playing through Curved Air - Young Mother and (now that I'm checking) the solo part that starts after about 3 minutes is one of the most musically memorable ones I can think of. In fact all of Francis Monkman's playing on the three first Curved Air albums hits me in a special way.

All of Mike Ratledge's playing on Out-Bloody-Rageous on Soft Machine's Third is pure magic to my ears.  He's mostly carries the composition creating underlaying, themes, atmosphere and soundscapes (which is what I love about him). But there's a definitive solo from about 6:00 and last for several minutes.

-A little randomly the ones that popped into my mind perhaps, but there must be a reason they appeared.

My favorite keyboard performance ever caught on tape and seen (on youtube) is by Irmin Schmidt. Whenever Can decided to go Jazz Rock fusion, it was full of fire. I love the studio version of Vernal Equinox from the (slightly) overlooked or underappreciated Landed too:




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Too many to try to account! I mean, Tony Banks alone has dozens! 

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Slaughtergarden Suite by Sigh must feature my favourive one.

The Cinema Show, Celestial Elixir and Battalion (Birds and Buildings) also some to mind, as well as of course Eat It Up Worms Hero, setting the world record for the number wrong notes played in a couple of seconds.

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Originally posted by Stressed Cheese Stressed Cheese wrote:

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You just mention classical music and opera and the vague idea of "history" to appear intellectual and superior to the rest of us. But a real intellectual would know when those topics add absolutely nothing to the discussion at hand. Still inserting them regardless is like a 15-y/o's idea of intellectualism.


Hi,

As if your comment was not about your own superiority, since no one else can disagree with you or the others!

And the discussion, on my part, was COMPARATIVE, not the kind of fan made comments.

I am not sure that "solo" was as "visible" as it has been made today as DE suggests. I do think, from my listening perspective, that in what we call/consider music history going back 500 years, perhaps the scoring that has survived had a tendency to "hide" solos, which nowadays, rock music does not hide at all. So, yeah, and we know (via RW ... hahaha!!!) that Vivaldi liked showing off and it is likely and possible that he disguised what we would consider a solo in his music, but if Rick's comments and study/special on Vivaldi, it seems that he did more than just what we know and seems to have survived, and was more of a solo'ist (for lack of a better term) when he wanted to show off.

But, in essence, music history has (in college) hidden some things, and solos is one of them. Opera "arias" were never intended as "solos" although it would be impossible to tell if Puccini and Verdi created a bunch of them because they had such tremendous singers around them ... one listen to Tebaldi and Nilson in Turandot makes one wonder if a composer would not want to do something for them individually ... or another example was Maria Callas doing Carmen. When I was listening to these things at 10 years old, I liked them, but never EVER thought of them as solos, and the story was complete ... without a hitch.

I have no issues with some "solos" in rock music, and there are many good ones, but the reverse is also true when a "solo" is there, and it is mechanical and boring.

I, personally, as I mentioned above, do not like to consider Keith a solo'ist at all ... his composition skills were immense and even hearing DD discuss them only shows a class in composition that very few folks are capable of being at. I like the "sound" that RW creates, but find his "riffs" somewhat the same in a different keyboard, which to me is ... not quite a good rating of a keyboard talent. I enjoyed many other keyboard players (and still do) whose work will forever be ignored here ... someone like Ryuichi Sakamoto comes to mind, and his talent has included an incredible number of sound tracks, and various solo albums where some stuff is experimental, and tremendous fun to listen to (Beauty/Heartbeat/NeoGeo) ... and like Richard Wright for PF, I also like the sound tapestries that Falk U. Rogner created for Amon Duul 2 i their early days ... up to and including "Wolf City" those keyboard sounds were magnificent.


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Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:


Hi,

The history of music is never irrelevant, unless you have no ear for it, which is the case for many of the rockers here and in this thread. Comparing a simplistic score sheet for a rock band with 4 or 5 rows, to a Symphony with 35 rows or more of music, is ridiculous, and considering something a "solo" in a rock song, only says that what Mozart and many others did was "hide" their solos so no one considered them "solos" but a piece of the music.

A song, is also a part of music history ... if you disdain the history of music, at least say so at the start ... it's almost like saying that rock music invented the solo ... no!!! the commerciality of the rock music in the past 50 years is what has made the "solo" more important, but that doesn't mean that music history will change because of it.

Your comment about opera is an indictment about how some folks here disdain classical music, because it has no "action" or a "solo" that they have lived with all their lives! I'm not stupid enough to think that times can not change, but I am not sure, honestly, that a comment like that is not well versed and knowledgeable about music in general. AND that's not to say that 500 years of history should mandate what rock music does at all ... but I think the attitude is more fan oriented than it is "music" oriented.
First of all, I don't "disdain" classical music. Second of all, I could be the biggest hater of classical music and/or opera, hell, I could have never even heard of classical music (if such a thing was possible), but that wouldn't have made my comments about prog rock any less valid/accurate. Rock has solos. It doesn't matter what other genres do or do not have them. It doesn't matter how solos in music originated. It doesn't matter if someone would rather cut off their ears than listen to a single second of classical music. We're discussing keyboard solos in rock music, where 1) they are unquestionably a thing and 2) you can prefer certain ones over others. All you need to appreciate and understand a solo in rock music (and indeed to list three favorites instead of going on some rant) is two ears.

You just mention classical music and opera and the vague idea of "history" to appear intellectual and superior to the rest of us. But a real intellectual would know when those topics add absolutely nothing to the discussion at hand. Still inserting them regardless is like a 15-y/o's idea of intellectualism.
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My limited brain power thinks that prog was about getting away from rules not adding more rules. Pedro is just that annoying sort that thinks the world has to be the way he sees it and anyone else seeing it different are fools.
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Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

I prefer the complete piece of music.

Another example. Folks talk about opera, mostly because of the "arias", but none of these were ever mentioned as not being a legitimate part of the complete piece, and one of the most emotional moments of the pieces. That was never designed as a "solo" per se, which is used by many classical musicians as highlights of their abilities ... the sad thing being that no one spends time listening to the rest of it ... well, I have to tell you that Wagner taxes my listening hard ... but I can handle the Italians.
That example is no good. All opera experts and professional performers have aria-favorites too. Obviously that doesn't mean they would think of those arias as not a legitimate part of the complete music. But an artist who lives and breathes for nothing but opera, could easily curate/create an album or a performance with nothing but arias from completely differnt operas. And genuine operalovers will have no qualms buying a ticket - or an album - and love it. Even if fifteen-twenty hours from the operas they love, are missing. Something like that would never be considered for keyboard solos, as everyone understands that a keyboard solo needs the rest of the compostiion to be fully appreciated. We actually understand this without you having to tell us.


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Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

The history of music is never irrelevant, unless you have no ear for it, which is the case for many of the rockers here and in this thread. Comparing a simplistic score sheet for a rock band with 4 or 5 rows, to a Symphony with 35 rows or more of music, is ridiculous, and considering something a "solo" in a rock song, only says that what Mozart and many others did was "hide" their solos so no one considered them "solos" but a piece of the music.

I could rattle off any number of solos that occur within classical compositions that are overt and in the forefront of the pieces - which is actually where the term "solo" first came into musical parlance; in fact I was just listening to Vivaldi's Le quattro stagioni. Perhaps you've never heard it? Wonderful violin solo in the First Movement of L'inverno, and it is a technical tour de force very much akin to a lead guitarist's solos in rock. It is Vivaldi showing off. But you are evidently ignorant of classical music. Perhaps you should discuss something you know about somewhere else -- on another forum, perhaps, where you don't have to keep insulting people.  

Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

Your comment about opera is an indictment about how some folks here disdain classical music, because it has no "action" or a "solo" that they have lived with all their lives!

Again, your ignorance of the operatic musical form discounts the vocal solos that are a mainstay of operas from Mozart to Verde. Perhaps you should just shut up before you embarrass yourself further. 

Oh, and some people don't like opera. I have limited patience for it, although Mozart's can be fun. Some folks don't care for country music or jazz or pop. Some don't even like prog -- they just don't b*tch and moan about it over and over again on a music site devoted to a specific genre that has... *GASP*... guitar solos.  Do you go over to the jazz site and complain about Wes Montgomery? LOL


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Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

The history of music is never irrelevant
 
That's a matter of opinion and is only true if one considers the history of music to be important. An alternative and equally valid view is to consider each piece of music simply by how it sounds without any reference to other music, history, or any background whatsoever. First and foremost, music is to be listened to. If you want to analyse music, or place it into some larger context, historical or whatever, that's fine, but don't think that is more important than listening to music, or even important at all.
 

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