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Baldwin
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koboh
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If Marillion is your thing then you might enjoy Candacraig. They are a relatively new band that has taken 25 years to finally realease their original neo prog music inspired by Marillion. Edited by koboh - July 18 2024 at 13:42 |
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Hrychu
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Notes Reviews also noticed the tendency for Neo Prog bands to use those "cheap" rompler sounds. |
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ProgEnStock
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As the vintage keyboard are trendy today (since 10 years since the Moog re-open) we could expect that the vintage prog, that the neo-prog try to replace with digital sound in the 90s, is more trendy than Neo-Prog that I don't really know. But I'm still have curiosity for them and I like IQ. I think neo-prog of the 80s and 90s have better keyboard sounds than fusion of the 90s 80s. A good example is the cheap preset of quebec's fusion band Uzeb.
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Prog-jester
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you gonna love Shadowland then: Such an underrated project |
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richardh
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agreed, I would even go farther and say that the point of neo prog is not to be original and experimental but instead concentrate on interesting lyrics, precise playing and a strong atmosphere. These are the bullet points for the genre imo. Not everyone has to like the same thing and that's fine but I'm all for choice over everything else. |
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O666
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My first meet was Fugazi and then Script.... . As a Prog Rock fan that started 40 years ago , I have a same story like others....
Now IMO "Comedy of Errors" is a great Neo Prog band that released their debut album after 2010
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progbethyname
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I love your story. Thank you. You have terrific insight into the genre. I’m also in the same IQ. camp as you. They are my favorite as well. I will keep buying every from them. |
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Gerinski
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I remember listening to Script for a Jester's Tear when it was released and we all friends saying it was a Genesis clone, but we liked it anyway. Then we bought the maxisingles with Grendel and so on, and Fugazi when it came out. We really liked all of it. Then they came to Barcelona in the Fugazi tour and it was a great show, with a very small but passionate audience.
Then came IQ, Pallas, Twelfth Night, Pendragon, Arena, Shadowland, Quidam, Flamborough Head, Landmark, Jadis, Now (the Dutch), Quasar with Tracy Hitchings... It was good music for a time when the big ones had broken up or were going Pop, and Prog Metal was still to come. And it was the time of starting a CD collection next to my vinyls! There was a local record shop very close to my house whose owner also like Prog a lot, and he published a fanzine with all the new albums he found and imported to Spain from France, the Netherlands, UK... I bought a lot of my Neo collection there. It was probably my main source of Prog during the 80s decade (during which I also got into New Age and more Jazz Rock / Fusion). I still like new Neo such as Frost*, the latest IQ, Arena and Pendragon albums are great, The Tangent, Barock Project... but probably the present-time IQ are my favourite, they are releasing great albums and I saw them in concert 1,5 years ago and they put out an amazing performance.
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progbethyname
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I declare IQ. as my favorite Neo-Prog band of all time. ARENA is a close 2nd, but IQ. I feel just have a bit more depth. 🙂
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BrufordFreak
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Neo Prog is the romantic schmaltz of Prog World. It's definitely a love-hate relationship. We love the full, lush sound textures and catchy melodies but we malign the artists for being imitators or for being unoriginal. Too bad. There's a lot of great music there.
My beef has always been with the "cheap" sounds of the 1980s and 1990s computer keyboards. Thankfully, those sounds have been eradicated or replaced with less-cheesy, more authentic strings, horn, winds, and piano-sounding samples and waveforms--which, in my opinion, gives 21st Century artists an advantage over those making music in the 1980s and 90s. Thus, most of my most highly acclaimed Neo Prog albums were ones that were released in the 21st Century. Edited by BrufordFreak - July 25 2023 at 06:52 |
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Magog2112
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My dad introduced me to Misplaced Childhood by Marillion, which was the first thing I had ever heard that is neo-prog. I loved it from the first listen and to this day, it is one of my favorite albums of all time. Since then, I have discovered many other incredible bands. Some notable ones are Pendragon and Galahad. Neo-prog is one of the more maligned sub-genres of prog and I never fully understood why. It captures the accessible, theatrical side of prog which I loved most. Prog doesn't have to contain virtuosic musicianship; it can be somewhat simple while still being boundary-pushing.
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mellotronwave
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Marillion Script back then
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Prog-jester
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thanks, will do in spring! For some reason neo-prog works best for me in March/April or September/October |
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progbethyname
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Nice stories, Gents
I have to say I owe a ton to PA for its dense data base, which rabbit holed the sh*t out of me. For all that I discovered IQ and Arena while Fish Era Marillion are the bands that really agree with me the most. Anyhow. This site has been amazing and with people like yourselves on here, have been a great help. |
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Jared
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Do yourself a favour and give the re-recording/ re-write of their debut, 'For King & Country' a listen when you have time... it's rather a treat!
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Prog-jester
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There were also bands that I discovered and didn't quite enjoyed - Cyan, Casino, Galahad, Cliffhanger, Violet Disctrict, Gazpacho (Night is great tho), Sylvan, RPWL, Galadriel, Theatre/Moongarden, Satellite, La Tulipe Noire (Shattered Image is great tho), Jadis, Millenium, Ageness, The Vow, Harnakis, Arrakeen, Deyss, Metaphor - but hey, to each his own I guess |
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progaardvark
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Like others, my first neo prog album was Marillion's debut album which I only discovered in the mid-1990s. At the time I didn't even know there was such a thing as neo prog and just assumed it was a continuation of a style perfected by Genesis and Yes (I didn't know about Camel at the time). The internet as we know it today was in its infancy, but I probably discovered "neo prog" as a term to describe this on the old Gibraltar Encyclopedia of Progressive Rock (GEPR) website. Marillion obviously led me to Arena, IQ, and Pendragon, and then to more obscure bands like Abraxas, Galleon, Flamborough Head, Tale Cue, Afterglow, Osiris, Cyan, Atria, Now, Egdon Heath, Cliffhanger, and East.
I don't think I cared much for the "hardening" of the neo prog sound in the early 2000s where some bands tried to fuse it with pseudo-prog-metal riffs. A few seemed to pull that off rather well, but for many of them, the change was a bit too much for me. Not that I have any issues with bands evolving beyond their neo prog foundations. Marillion is a great example of a band that has become more eclectic over time, and as such, has been a joy to listen to their evolution over five decades.
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I bought Marillion's Script 2CD remaster on August 1st, 2003. I lived in a small provincial Ukrainian town and I was 16. Literally not a single person could understand my obsession with this music, not even my dad, a huge Beatles/Urian Heep/Deep Purple fan, who taught me to play guitar (he was in pop/rock bands in Soviet times).
By 2003 I'd already written like coupla hundred songs (again, for nobody, just for myself), but only after hearing Script I decided I wanna be in music for real. It wasn't easy but now my main band has 167k monthly listeners on Spotify and one of my side-projects is literally an early Marillion clone, hehe: Another favourite of mine genre-wise is Clive Nolan's Shadowland - Ring Of Roses is a masterpiece and MUST get a vinyl release! |
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One of my favourite Neo Prog bands of the moment: La Tulipe Noire from Greece - not Holland.
1996: La Tulipe Noire - In the Gates of Dream - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USZAMNro9Qk 2000: La Tulipe Noire - Shattered Image - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nFOlu71m7YKXDFZyFI0Uri91w0-v5vU4c 2002: La Tulipe Noire - Faded Leaves - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kSKOijzoMlL2BAXbbz8i3f2XPpvLJ41NQ 2006: La Tulipe Noire - Nostimon Hemar - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_l9Uj_KGzyN3g6UCUQRcF0z-fV8jx3iroc 2013: La Tulipe Noire - Matricide - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mCsoHBkTc0UHg6mPQ7msBCfwK8GHhcMXw |
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