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Poll Question: Which Genesis Album is your favorite (and by how much?)
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    Posted: November 19 2022 at 19:19
Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Originally posted by Dellinger Dellinger wrote:

I find it weird how Trick of the Tail is winning so notoriously. Even though there are many songs I like a lot on both albums, in Trick it is mostly poppier songs to my ears, while the songs I like from Wind and Wuthering are proggier
I much prefer the much poppier ELO Time to the much proggier ELO 2 - and do not take such things into consideration. Maybe that's why? (I voted that I like them equally though)


Yes, of course. The thing for me is that those songs on Wind and Wuthering are not only proggier, but I like them better... yet, it's my own taste, of course.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Dellinger Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 19 2022 at 19:18
^ O do enjoy A Trick of the Tail, pop and all. I don't really care for Your Own Special Way... I would actually have to listen to it again, though, I don't really remember it very well. In any case, Wind and Wuthering does have Afterglow, which is rather poppy too, and I find much more enjoyable than those two.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Awesoreno Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 18 2022 at 00:28
While I don't find them to be similar pieces, YOSW and the track AToTT are similarly the most accessible tunes on their respective albums, and I'm surprised that one gets so much more hate than the other. Sure, YOSW is "sappier," one could say, but they are both pretty easy-going pop rock tracks. And YOSW actually has some more interesting and unexpected chord progression choices, particularly in the middle section. It just seems like the chorus is what turns away the proggers.

That being said, I still probably prefer the track AToTT. Mostly playing devil's advocate here.
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Originally posted by Dellinger Dellinger wrote:

I find it weird how Trick of the Tail is winning so notoriously. Even though there are many songs I like a lot on both albums, in Trick it is mostly poppier songs to my ears, while the songs I like from Wind and Wuthering are proggier
I much prefer the much poppier ELO Time to the much proggier ELO 2 - and do not take such things into consideration. Maybe that's why? (I voted that I like them equally though)
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I find it weird how Trick of the Tail is winning so notoriously. Even though there are many songs I like a lot on both albums, in Trick it is mostly poppier songs to my ears, while the songs I like from Wind and Wuthering are proggier, and in general, my favourites from the era... mostly One for the Vine, which for me captures best what I loved from the Gabriel era, and Unquiet Slumbers for the Sleepers in that Quiet Earth (for me a single song), which is my very favourite Genesis instrumental (easily over Los Endos). And Afterglow closes with also one of my favourite pop moments from the band.
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Trick of the Tail by a wide margin.
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I like W&W, but not enough to not be a wide margin apart from ATOTT...
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ATOTT by a nose. Or a tail, I suppose...
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To those that mentioned "Your Own Special Way", that song is SUPER out of place on the album. It does not fit the record at all... I still think that A Trick of the Tail is only slightly better than Wind & Wuthering.....
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote twosteves Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 17 2022 at 07:18
like them both equally they both have their different magic Your own special way sort of takes W&W off the perfect album list. Although I like it more now then I did originally.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Heart of the Matter Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 17 2022 at 07:07
I'm happy with Match Of The Day and with W&W just as they are. Almost every classic Genesis album includes some More Fool Me, or whatever that not everybody likes. Consistency per se doesn't elevate me at all, a great song is rather required. And TBH, Squonk isn't much of an elevator, give me YOSW anytime. Mad Man Moon, Entangled, that ones I love.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote essexboyinwales Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 17 2022 at 05:54
Trick, but only narrowly.

Haven’t listened to either for a while.

In fact, I need to have a bit of a Genesis session….
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Steve Wyzard Steve Wyzard wrote:

A Trick of the Tail is better by a wide margin.

Even if "Your Own Special Way" were replaced by "Inside and Out" (as it should have been), both "All in a Mouse's Night" and "Blood on the Rooftops" are a bit "twee" and make Wind and Wuthering a "very good" rather than "great" album.

I love those two songs. Big smile

 
I'll bet you don't love "your own special way." Wink


I've already said what I think about the song, even in this thread. Big smile


yep inside and Out is a 5 stars track and would have been a nice addition to W/W
Your own special way was probably selected to satisfy a top single request by Charisma or band management
All in a mouse's night is imo a very nice track, it deserves its place on W/W
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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Steve Wyzard Steve Wyzard wrote:

A Trick of the Tail is better by a wide margin.

Even if "Your Own Special Way" were replaced by "Inside and Out" (as it should have been), both "All in a Mouse's Night" and "Blood on the Rooftops" are a bit "twee" and make Wind and Wuthering a "very good" rather than "great" album.

I love those two songs. Big smile

 
I'll bet you don't love "your own special way." Wink

I've already said what I think about the song, even in this thread. Big smile


Edited by Cristi - November 17 2022 at 00:27
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I like them equally
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I never get tired of Wind and Wuthering, but A Trick of Tale does not always grab me, even though I like it a lot as well. Ying Yang
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote mellotronwave Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 16 2022 at 18:21
Both equally , both are must have
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote AFlowerKingCrimson Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 16 2022 at 18:06
Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Steve Wyzard Steve Wyzard wrote:

A Trick of the Tail is better by a wide margin.

Even if "Your Own Special Way" were replaced by "Inside and Out" (as it should have been), both "All in a Mouse's Night" and "Blood on the Rooftops" are a bit "twee" and make Wind and Wuthering a "very good" rather than "great" album.

I love those two songs. Big smile

 



I'll bet you don't love "your own special way." Wink
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote AFlowerKingCrimson Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 16 2022 at 18:06
I wouldn't say by a wide margin but I do like ATOTT better since I think it's a little more consistent. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Mellotron Storm Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 16 2022 at 17:51
Trick of the Tail and the margin is quite wide.
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