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    Posted: March 30 2022 at 03:08
Maybe not the best, but certainly deserves to be much better known than he is: Roman Bunka.



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Acoustic: Paco de Lucia
Electric: Jimi
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Honestly, Frank Zappa. He's never claimed to be the most technically proficient, and he surely wasn't always on fire, but when he was, it resulted in simply the most interesting guitar solos I've yet heard. I can revisit solos like He Used To Cut The Grass or the 1981 Ritz Zoot Allures over and over. Allan Holdsworth, Jan Akkerman and Jerry Garcia I'm also fond of.
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Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

Originally posted by WJA-K WJA-K wrote:

For me, style and emotion trump technical skills.


The whole "emotion" debate is a whole other can of worms.

EVERY musical expression evokes some sort of emotional response.

So that means you have to clarify what gives you emotional pleasure.

Personally i find even the most abrasive dissonant technical w**kery emotionally stimulating.

I would assume like most you mean a catchy melodic underpinning to the composition.

So it boils down to which emotion one is seeking at any given moment :)
The emotion you feel from an instrument is a personal thing indeed. 
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Originally posted by WJA-K WJA-K wrote:

For me, style and emotion trump technical skills.


The whole "emotion" debate is a whole other can of worms.

EVERY musical expression evokes some sort of emotional response.

So that means you have to clarify what gives you emotional pleasure.

Personally i find even the most abrasive dissonant technical w**kery emotionally stimulating.

I would assume like most you mean a catchy melodic underpinning to the composition.

So it boils down to which emotion one is seeking at any given moment :)

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What is an ACTUAL guitarist in the first place? For me, style and emotion trump technical skills. Best to have both obviously.

Like Robert Fripp.
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Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

Now how can anyone not recognize these guys are totally unique creative guitarists?
Agree they are unique. Covet guitarist Yvette Young, Allan Holdsworth, Pat Metheny, Guthrie Govan, Tom Monda (Thank You Scientist), Jan Zehrfeld (Panzerballett), and hundreds others are unique.

I'm familiar with all the guitarists you posted and Eklundh is my fave by far. He is much more than shred. He can write, what I consider, good music.

And the big question is where's Buckethead from your suggestions??


Yeah all those guitarists you listed are great too. In fact we are spoiled with an unprecedented riches of musical talent in all of human history. We have NEVER had so much access to so many brilliant musicians as we have in the last couple of decades. Despite all the f.u.c.k.e.d up s.h.i.t. on the world, i feel blessed beyond measure to live at a time when music is a never ending stream of creativity.

Buckethead was mentioned above but he's not my absolute favorite even though i've reviewed every album. His cream of the crop though does put him firmly in my top 10 modern guitarist list though if i were to make such a thing. I also love avant-garde guitarists ranging from Trey Spruance, Fredrik Thordendal, Fred Frith, Adrian Belew etc. I just find adding speedy shredding on top of talent the icing on the cake

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Originally posted by omphaloskepsis omphaloskepsis wrote:

Steve Howe.  


In the world of prog, Steve Howe is #1 in my book 4 sure Big smile

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Originally posted by Man With Hat Man With Hat wrote:

No one actually plays the guitar, k
Does the guitar play the player?

To the OP. Yes he's decent if shred is what you dig. Not original though, sounds a lot like Satch to me. "Guitar solo of the decade"??? LOLLOL


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Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

Now how can anyone not recognize these guys are totally unique creative guitarists?
Agree they are unique. Covet guitarist Yvette Young, Allan Holdsworth, Pat Metheny, Guthrie Govan, Tom Monda (Thank You Scientist), Jan Zehrfeld (Panzerballett), and hundreds others are unique.

I'm familiar with all the guitarists you posted and Eklundh is my fave by far. He is much more than shred. He can write, what I consider, good music.

And the big question is where's Buckethead from your suggestions??
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Hi,

I might be a bit old fashioned, but my preference still goes towards Michael Karoli and John Weinzierl who were able to improvise and move along so well for a long time. I don't like to compare them, but John McLaughlin would fit well here, and I might even consider Manuel Gottsching who has even done long improvisations with Klaus Schulze, something that most guitarists won't even consider. 

The freedom to move around, not just a chord or two, and without a "structure" will add a lot more to the music than we think, although in many of the examples here, it is almost about how many chords/notes you can share/do within a specific setting or amount of time, which for me, is pyrotechnics not the guitar touch or ability.

As I like to say, somewhat cynically, there are hundreds of guitarists in the streets of Madrid, or Barcelona that can out do many of these folks, if they ever went electric ... but I'm not sure that they will ever be given a proper ear for us to appreciate beyond that technical guitar playing of so many of these folks ... I prefer the "less technical" and the more emotional and feel free form in this instrument.
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Originally posted by dwill123 dwill123 wrote:

Previously mentioned all good choices BUT the best was Shawn Lane.




I'm a Shawn Lane fan as well. He's amongst the handful of modern guitarists who are on my list. I just find his music a bit sleepy and not full of the energetic overdrive that Bumblefoot and Eklundh offer. While technically proficient he sat comfortably in the easy listening section of the jazz-fusion world for the most part.

Bumblefoot and Eklundh on the other hand can effortlessly fuse classical, metal, prog, jazz, flamenco, gypsy swing, clever lyrics, songwriting, bizarre originality and the element of surprise without flinching.

There are hundreds of excellent guitarists in the world of technical metal as well which is where the most innovative progression of all musical styles is moving forward in the 21st century.

Now how can anyone not recognize these guys are totally unique creative guitarists?

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Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

BTW i just noticed that it is lame that video of the Italian guitarist doesn't say his name! It is Vittorio Camardese and he went unnoticed in the 1960s with his cutting edge hammer on style and still remained unknown despite Van Halen making the style popular.
Roy Smeck was taping in 1932. Jimmy Webster and Harry DeArmond were taping in the 50's and there were probably some before 1932 that were taping.

Also, Allan Holdsworth (already mentioned) and Pat Metheny should receive recognition. Even Van Halen said Allan was the best guitarist he ever heard, so did Zappa.


Alll true but the style was perfected in the 60s by Vittorio as far as i know. Roy Smeck wasn't even the first. Tapping goes as far back as Paganini on the violin. It's really an incremental increase over centuries that led to what is now common in neoclassical guitar wizardry.

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Too many specialists worth noting to name. In an "all-around" category, it'd have to be someone who enjoys expressing him (or her-) self through many mediums, many styles, even across genres. Who comes across equally well in classical, Spanish (flamenco, tango, Andean folk, etc.), jazz, fusion, rock, blues, klezmer, Indian, Chinese, Japanese, Afro-Caribbean, etc., traditions/interpretations? 
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