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    Posted: December 26 2021 at 12:37
I had many Steve Jolliffe albums over the years , but never heard Steamhammer. I must check them out!
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I am so glad someone mentioned Steamhammer. I love their second "MK II" from 1969 and "Mountains" from 1970. The addition of Steve Jolliffe to the lineup of the band made a huge impact on overall style of the second album. Very mature, ahead of its time album, released in 1969 but sounds like something from early 70s, with flutes, saxophone and harpsichord. I don't know why but I always liked the voice of Kieran White. It blends so nicely with the music, it's not in your face, not distracting or annoying like some other voices of lead vocalists in different bands (that I won't mention). Big smile 
But... Kieran's White solo album is very disappointing for a fan of progressive rock ("Open Door", 1975).


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Originally posted by Hugh Manatee Hugh Manatee wrote:

Good to see Pete Brown & Piblokto - Thousands on a Raft and Pete Brown & Piblokto - Things May Come and Things May Go but the Art School Dance Goes on Forever. 

Pete Brown was in another band called Battered Ornaments with master journeyman guitarist Chris Spedding.

Spedding was part of Nucleus for their first two albums.

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And I think it was a DG/Chris Spedding duet in Roy Harper's "Playing the Game Pts 1-5" ... that one was massive and far out!
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Good to see Pete Brown & Piblokto - Thousands on a Raft and Pete Brown & Piblokto - Things May Come and Things May Go but the Art School Dance Goes on Forever. 

Pete Brown was in another band called Battered Ornaments with master journeyman guitarist Chris Spedding.

Spedding was part of Nucleus for their first two albums.
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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

^ I never said they weren't. Lol.

I know, and you mention not all are uk, so just cleared the country for this group.
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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Interesting list. These kinds of bands are often referred to as proto prog(even though progarchives has a slightly different definition of what that is). Anyway, several years ago another prog website had a ranking of the top 100 (or so) albums that fall more or less into this category. Not all of these are from the UK though. Here is a non ranked, alphabetized version of that list:

2066 & Then - Reflections!
A-Austr Musics from Holy Ground
Abacus - s/t
Ache - De Homine Urbano
Ache - Green Man
Affinity - s/t
Aquila - s/t
Arc - At this
Arcadium - Breathe Awhile
Arzachel - s/t
Battered Ornaments - A Meal You Can Shake Hands With In The Dark
Battered Ornaments - Mantlepiece
Atomic Rooster - Death Walks Behind You
Beggars Opera - Act One
Beggars Opera - Pathfinder
Beggars Opera - Waters of Change
Black Widow - Sacrifice
Bodkin - s/t
Bram Stoker - Heavy Rock Spectacular
Burnin' Red Ivanhoe - M144
Burnin' Red Ivanhoe - WWW
Catapilla - Changes
Catapilla - s/t
Cirkus - One
Colosseum - Daughter of Time
Colosseum - Valentyne Suite
Comus - First Utteranace
Cressida - Asylum
Cressida - s/t
Culpepers Orchard - s/t
Czar - s/t
Dear Mr. Time -Grandfather
Diabolus - s/t
Earth & Fire-same
East of Eden - Mercator Projected
East of Eden - s/t
Egg - The Polite Force
Egg - s/t
Fairfield Parlour - From Home to Home
Family - Family Entertainment
Fantasy - Beyond the Beyond
Fantasy - Paint a Picture
Fields - s/t
Frumpy - Frumpy
Fuchsia - s/t
Fusion Orchestra - Skeleton in Armour
Fuzzy Duck - s/t
Galliard - New Dawn
Galliard - Strange Pleasure
Gnidrolog - In Spite of Harry's Toenail
Gnidrolog - Lady Lake
Gracious - This is... Gracious!!
Gracious - s/t
Gravy Train - Ballad of a Peaceful Man
Gravy Train - Second Birth
Greenslade - s/t
Greenwood, Nicholas - Cold Cuts
High Tide - Sea Shanties
High Tide - s/t
Indian Summer - s/t
Jan Dukes de Grey - Mice & Rats in the Loft
Jody Grind - Far Canal
Jonesy - Growing
Julian Jay Savarin - Waiters on the Dance
Julian's Treatment - A Time Before This
Kestrel - s/t
Khan - Space Shanty
Kingdom Come - Galactic Zoo Dossier
Kingdom Come - Journey
Krokodil - An Invisible World...
Locomotive - We Are Everything You See
Love Sculpture - Forms & Feelings
Manfred Mann's Chapter Three Vol. 1 & 2
Marsupilami - Arena
Marsupilami - s/t
Mellow Candle - Swaddling Songs
Missing Link - Nevergreen!
Odin - s/t
Orange Peel - s/t
Out of Focus - Wake Up
Out of Focus - s/t
Pete Brown & Piblokto - Thousands on a Raft
Pete Brown & Piblokto - Things May Come and Things May Go but the Art School Dance Goes on Forever
Parlour Band - Is a Friend?
Procol Harum - Shine on Brightly
Quatermass - s/t
Quicksand - Home is Where I belong
Rare Bird - As Your Mind Flies By
Rare Bird - s/t
Raw Material - Time is...
Room - Pre-Flight
Samurai - s/t
Sandrose - s/t
Second Hand - Death May Be Your Santa Claus
Skin Alley - s/t
Spring - s/t
Still Life - s/t
Subject Esq - s/t
T2 - It'll All Work Out in Boomland
The Greatest Show on Earth - Horizons
Titus Groan - s/t
Tonton Macoute - s/t
Touch - s/t
Tractor - s/t
Traffic - John Barleycorn Must Die
Warm Dust - And It Came To Pass
Web - I Spider
Wind - Seasons

Another great list.....have most of those...love that old stuff., Thanks for mentioning Czar...great one not many know unless they like this early era..,,, very rare on vinyl.
no one mentioned Steamhammer yet...much like Gravy Train in style.
MKll is the best but they all are interesting.


Another one not mentioned..have it on cd....crazy price on old vinyl...




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Originally posted by Hugh Manatee Hugh Manatee wrote:

Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:


Great list...have all of those except for Aardvark, Fuzzy Duck and Greatest Show....even have a handful on original vinyl.
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That Fuzzy Duck album is excellent IMHO. It's a real shame that they only released that one album.

Meant to get it a few years back but it got lost on the list of things to buy.
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Originally posted by enigmatic enigmatic wrote:

I don't think it has been mentioned yet - Tonton Macoute - s/t (1971).
I forgot to include it in my initial post. Very interesting and melodic jazz influenced progressive rock with  sax, clarinet, flute, organ and vibes besides usual instruments. Highly recommended!
I've seen Top 110 British prog albums list posted by Psychedelic Paul. Even he likes does album! Smile

Next but not least - Darryl Way's Wolf. All 3 albums released by this band are worth checking. My favorite is "Canis Lupus" from 1973 with Ian McDonald as a producer and guest musician.

Love Ton Ton Macoute (cd)....still looking for a bargain on old vinyl...I have all the Darryl Way Wolf things on old vinyl.
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^ I never said they weren't. Lol.
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Nice tread, know most of those albums and although most a not up to the level one albums we all know, they are def. Still very nice.



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Originally posted by enigmatic enigmatic wrote:

moshkito - I am glad you mentioned the name Edgar Broughton Band. I've been on different progressive rock forums since 1995 when I purchased my first PC. I've met many different people and some of them had very high regards about the EBB. "Wasa Wasa" by many is considered one of the greatest albums recorded in 1969.
When comes to the music from early 70s, I am more of a fan of eclectic prog, symphonic prog, space-rock, Canterbury scene. progressive folk, so that's why the EBB is not included on my list of favorite uncharted, second tier UK bands from early 70s.
Should they be listed on PA? Absolutely, I totally agree. Most likely together with another band from the same period: Pete Brown & Piblokto!

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I kinda thought that the EBB fit all those terms except "symphonic" since we only use that term when KEYBOARDS are used, and the EBB did not use them a lot earlier on. They didn't need to, since the lyrics drove the band and the ideas at the time. For all intents and purposes, Edgar is STILL a very adventurous and politically concerned person, and it was part of the band. 

Pete Brown & Piblokto ... is more of a nice thing to have to get an idea, but the sad thing about all of Pete Brown's stuff with anyone else but Cream, did not quite make it, and often sounded rather sad. It was as if the folks did not understand the lyrics, and could not interpret it musically without a format already used ... as his words appear to be fine in many of the efforts. Just slightly misused.

Reminds me of Syd Barrett's solo albums, and how folks interpreted the stuff, and end up making a not so great mess of the whole thing, and Robert Wyatt describes it better, on a song that they are trying to nail down, and the lead guitarist asks him what chord is Syd on? And Robert's reply, is the scariest thing for all musicians in this board! "He doesn't know the chords! He just plays!" ... meaning you have to listen and stick with what he is doing, and most musicians can not do that without "knowing" what key things are in!

I kinda thought the same thing about Pete Sinfield, when people tried to make "songs" of his words, and it didn't quite work well. The lyrics required a certain freedom of music that simply was not there, and those folks were trying to put conventional structures to his words, and the combination was not very good, when compared to how his words were used in other places, and specially used by Greg Lake, who probably knew that those words were not exactly to be "sung" as much as acted out first.

(Kinda makes a distinction between musicians and artists?)


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Originally posted by enigmatic enigmatic wrote:

 thank you for your feedback and contribution to this thread. And I hope you didn't take my post personally. As you pointed out, it's all subjective. We react to music in different ways.

It is entirely my pleasure. I commend you for bringing attention to these lesser know acts of that period.

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Enigmatic - I sent you a pm. 

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Hugh Manatee - thank you for your feedback and contribution to this thread. And I hope you didn't take my post personally. As you pointed out, it's all subjective. We react to music in different ways.
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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Again, I really don't see what the big deal is. You have already stated which bands are not obscure. I don't think most reading this thread care (except you that is). 

I certainly think, it's best to follow the OP.

Not least when it's very obviously that the opener is much engaged in the topic.
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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Again, I really don't see what the big deal is. You have already stated which bands are not obscure. I don't think most reading this thread care (except you that is). 

I certainly think, it's best to follow the OP.
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Originally posted by enigmatic enigmatic wrote:

Originally posted by Hugh Manatee Hugh Manatee wrote:

I personally think that "Epic Forest" is the best Rare Bird release.

Isn't it a beauty and challenge of progressive rock? We, progressive rock fans can't agree on anything. 
Put 5 progressive rock fans in one room (with different background/age) - ask them 5 questions:
1. What are the Big 5 bands of prog-rock?
2. What are 5 the greatest prog-rock albums?
3. What do you consider as first prog-rock album ever recorded?
4. What was the first progressive rock group?
5. What is the best Rare Bird album?

and they all give you different answers.

My favorite Rare Bird album, by far is "As Your Mind Flies By".

Please don't take it personally. It was an opinion, not a criticism.

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If you were truly relaxed you wouldn't be making such an issue out of the list I posted. 

Again, I really don't see what the big deal is. You have already stated which bands are not obscure. I don't think most reading this thread care (except you that is). 

Anyway, I could say your thread title is misleading because you said second tier when you really meant third tier. The bands you mentioned on my list that are too well known are all second tier. None of them are first tier. 


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Originally posted by enigmatic enigmatic wrote:

I am relaxed, I am very relaxed. I turned 60 this year, with high blood pressure, so I have to be relaxed. I am here to talk about music, find some friends, not enemies.
Can I ask you to remove non-UK bands, and successful, charted UK bands like Colosseum, Procol Harum, Traffic and Family from the list. Just to avoid confusion.

Dude, you're killing me! Ok, fine. I'll remove those bands. Any others you want removed?
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