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Poll Question: Choose three songs out of these...
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    Posted: November 13 2021 at 07:43
Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:


I certainly use to do it, Logan, and did it this time, as well, but I didn't get the meaning of listening to all the songs before voting - whatever the reason for it.


That's fine, and Cristi's opening post wasn't as ridiculously detailed with rules expectations and explanations as my Interactive Polls. Suitkees explained the process well. There is a learning curve to these often, and while we usually have some basic common factors in terms of expectations in terms of the suggestions and nominations stage followed by the listening to all of the choices stage and vote for three stage, there are differences in the themes and there may be changes to the rules and expectations. I meant if one participates in the whole process (suggestions/nominations and listening and voting) and even if one knows how they usually operate, following the guidelines of the original post can be a bit of a challenge. But I make it sound harder than it is. If there are questions, one can always ask while the poll process is going on. Often clarifications have been needed and I've changed my rules slightly depending on feedback in my polls.

Here is how I wrote up one of my original posts for one of these: Interactive Duos Poll: Heaven-Sent and Hell-Bent

Suggesting you may wish to join in is selfish of me, because I would just love to eventually see your Interactive Poll. Love to see more involvement in people making those. Impractical as it is, I rather wish every active forum member would make at least one and I wish they rolled around faster. I love topics where we actually check each other's music likes out and people will comment on those and involve discussion. With so many topics it feels like each post is an island unto itself, which has become more common in discussion forums over the years I find (less discussions period and less interactivity generally). Speaking of interactivity, sorry for not participating in that topic of yours before. I stopped nicotine not that long ago, which is super stressful and makes decision-making harder. I was going to take long break from the forum to deal with the withdrawal.

Edited by Logan - November 13 2021 at 07:49
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Props for including Courtney Barnett, her work is great
Take me down, to the underground
Won't you take me down, to the underground
Why oh why, there is no light
And if I can't sleep, can you hold my life

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote David_D Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 13 2021 at 03:40
Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Each time one should read the opening post carefully, because we do get some changes from poll to poll (helps to understand the theme and expectations).

I certainly use to do it, Logan, and did it this time, as well, but I didn't get the meaning of listening to all the songs before voting - whatever the reason for it.
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Originally posted by jamesbaldwin jamesbaldwin wrote:

Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

thank you very much for your explanation, suitkees

David, join the next poll!

Thank you, james (and Logan), I'll think about it.


Edited by David_D - November 13 2021 at 03:34
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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

thank you very much for your explanation, suitkees

David, join the next poll!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Logan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 12 2021 at 10:30
^ I do hope you consider joining in one one of these throughout the process David and then later you could be one of the people joining the "team" and making Interactive Polls. This is the most enjoyable regular activity at the forum for me, and I don't regularly participate as fully as some others do. Each time one should read the opening post carefully, because we do get some changes from poll to poll (helps to understand the theme and expectations).

Nice to see "Dagon" did get some votes, by the way, Thank you to those. I had been really hell-bent on doing the Melt-Banana (to me it fit the brief better and I like "noise"), but it is nice to take comments on board. One shouldn't be too swayed by them though, as those don't equal getting votes necessarily. ;) Not that the votes really matter, it's the sharing of music listening to each others choices, and the communal experience that make this special to me, but of course it is nice for one's choices to be appreciated.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote David_D Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 12 2021 at 10:06
thank you very much for your explanation, suitkees
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Well done, Kees!  Clap
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^ David, this is not exactly how these interactive polls work, but you can of course always cast your vote... The idea of these polls is that we listen to the music others propose within the theme decided on by the poll starter, before we vote. It is about exchanging music that others might also like but not know yet. Most of these polls are about non-prog music, but sometimes prog is "tolerated" (limited to lesser known prog acts) or limited only to lesser know prog.

These are called "interactive polls" because the participants will, during a first stage, propose up to three (but we do transgress that number, sometimes) tracks that they want to share/make discover to the others. One of these will be "nominated" to make up a final selection that will be dressed up for the poll. In a second stage we will listen to all of these nominations before each participant will vote for three submissions (other than his/her own).

Normally, the life cycle of these polls is now two weeks: a first week to put up suggestions, listen to them and for each participant to decide on his her nomination and a second week to listen to all the nominated tracks before voting for three of them.

So, this generally takes time for all participants: selecting one's own suggestions, listening to those made by the others (eventually commenting on them...). Furthermore, most of the times, these polls concern non-prog music; since prog is our common denominator, we might also like some of the non-prog suggestions put forward by others. It is a great way to make new musical discoveries! But since it takes (listening-)time and is often concerning non-prog music there are not that many participants. All this explains the many posts but the relatively few votes...

Lorenzo (jamesbaldwin) came up with the idea of these interactive polls, even before I joined PA, and the calendar (and other things) is coordinated in the Interactive poll team thread. You can find a history of previous polls in this post.



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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote David_D Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 11 2021 at 23:15
Now, I think Babes in Toyland (US) - Fontanelle (1992) THAT'S "rocking ladies"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XON5kVxHBYA&list=PLMxy067kbpQj9az7ivfQ5SRYCucSM6UW_

Something entirely else, I've seen only about half of all these replies, but how come so many of them and so few votes?
Anyway, my vote went to Cannonball, as I'm not aquainted with most of the presented songs.


Edited by David_D - November 12 2021 at 02:40
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I'd like to thank you for taking the time to comment on the songs including my own choice: Nickie, Tigerfeet, Mike, Kees and Lewian. Much appreciated, guys!


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Originally posted by Mila-13 Mila-13 wrote:

[QUOTE=Snicolette][QUOTE=Mila-13] 

Dark folk/rock-type music was just an example because Cristi mentioned that the line-up didn't quite represent the state of the art of women in music. So maybe a theme such as 'Women In Rock' could open up possibilities. I still enjoyed the variety of music in this poll. 


That was my opinion, feel free to prove me wrong (if that's the case). Smile
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Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

Originally posted by Mila-13 Mila-13 wrote:

 
You are disappointed, obviously. But you shouldn't be. There was still a wide music variety in this poll and you got some great feedback as well. It was actually not about your description of the topic in the first place, it's rather that you posted all your options straight away. That gave me the impression that you expected a certain type of rock music. And btw. there is also various dark stuff out there which is not necessarily loud, you see?
  

Mila, typically the original poster has done their selections at the opening of the poll, as Cristi did.  But that doesn't mean it hasn't been done differently, too.  

Dark stuff that isn't loud brings to mind all of the dark folk-type bands, many of which are fronted/include women and some are mostly or all women.  But that wouldn't have fit this poll (just thinking of music that strikes ME that way).  Again, it's all truly subjective and not rigid, as far as how people take the direction of a poll, unless the pollster makes it that way in the way they present the poll. 

Dark folk/rock-type music was just an example because Cristi mentioned that the line-up didn't quite represent the state of the art of women in music. So maybe a theme such as 'Women In Rock' could open up possibilities. I still enjoyed the variety of music in this poll. 

As for your choice, I really like Heather Nova, maybe she is better known in Europe. I would have voted for her had you chosen a less known song. Smile



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Originally posted by tigerfeet tigerfeet wrote:

10. Arimea – Ronstein, was that a nine string guitar? I never had the pleasure of playing one but it looks quite hard if you do not have a wide and/or large hand.



8-string. Dave is a ridiculously talented musician, engineer and producer. he created the Taylor Swift cover in the middle of the night, because he was 'bored'!!

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My votes:

1. Anna Calvi - Wish: I am familiar with some of her material and have the album with the studio version of Wish. This live version "rocks" and makes me want to see her live.

2. Courtney Barnett - History Eraser: Enjoyed the lyrics and her delivery.

3. Üstmamò - Tannomai: Great attitude and sound. I like that bounce and bass.

Honorable mentions:

Eskaton: Echoing some other opinions, I felt a bit unfair to vote for this one as a more prog/sophiscated song. I appreciate it being nominated as the album is on my ever growing buy list.

Imelda May: Enjoyed this and it barely missed the top three.

Go_A - Shum: If I had a few more listens this could have made my top 3 but only so much time.

Thanks to everyone. I enjoyed this one.
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:


I posted 4 different kind of songs songs, from different genres, I thought fun to listen to, catchy yet not simplistic in any way. 

  And you did so perfectly.  From my thoughts on this directed toward Mila, it's all truly subjective and not rigid, as far as how people take the direction of a poll, unless the pollster makes it that way in the way they present the poll. If it is presented with very precise parameters, it feels less fun to me, I prefer a little leeway and you accomplished this here.
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Originally posted by Mila-13 Mila-13 wrote:

 
You are disappointed, obviously. But you shouldn't be. There was still a wide music variety in this poll and you got some great feedback as well. It was actually not about your description of the topic in the first place, it's rather that you posted all your options straight away. That gave me the impression that you expected a certain type of rock music. And btw. there is also various dark stuff out there which is not necessarily loud, you see?
  

Mila, typically the original poster has done their selections at the opening of the poll, as Cristi did.  But that doesn't mean it hasn't been done differently, too.  

Dark stuff that isn't loud brings to mind all of the dark folk-type bands, many of which are fronted/include women and some are mostly or all women.  But that wouldn't have fit this poll (just thinking of music that strikes ME that way).  Again, it's all truly subjective and not rigid, as far as how people take the direction of a poll, unless the pollster makes it that way in the way they present the poll. 
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Originally posted by Mila-13 Mila-13 wrote:

 Heather Nova: Walk This World (Nickie) A big name, a British alt/folk rock singer-songwriter with a unique voice. ”Walk This World” is her signature song from her breakout album Oyster (1994). With a less known song she might have been a contender, though. Still Romeo Void remains my favourite of yours. New wave, post-punk would have contributed to the musical variety, besides that genre is right down my alley.

Thank you for your thoughts, Mila.  I was not sure how many would remember Heather Nova, or Romeo Void.  
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Originally posted by tigerfeet tigerfeet wrote:

So, I have my top 3 pick for this poll. 

#1 First Prize goes to: Lee Aaron – “Watcha Do to My Body”  

I do love stereotypes if in good taste and this one was executed in a perfect way.
 
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Thanks Tigerfeet and Mila for your comments; it's nice reading them! Also glad you liked Anna Calvi (vocally, this is maybe not her most consistent - but imo still captivating - performance, but she shows her capabilities...).

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