Forum Home Forum Home > Progressive Music Lounges > Suggest New Bands and Artists
  New Posts New Posts RSS Feed - Almendra for Psychedelic Rock
  FAQ FAQ  Forum Search   Events   Register Register  Login Login

Almendra for Psychedelic Rock
 Post Reply Post Reply Page  12>
Author
Message Reverse Sort Order
  Topic Search Topic Search  Topic Options Topic Options
yam yam View Drop Down
Collaborator
Collaborator
Avatar
Crossover Team

Joined: June 16 2011
Location: Kerberos
Status: Offline
Points: 6444 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote yam yam Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Topic: Almendra for Psychedelic Rock
    Posted: 17 hours 4 minutes ago at 17:21
No official evaluation has ever been started for these guys by a genre team. The Prog Folk team were notified in the first instance, and they moved the suggestion across to PSIKE (Psych/Space) in February 2022. One PSIKE team member commented at the time that if they belonged here anywhere, then he thought it would be in Proto Prog. They were never added to the Psych chart for an evaluation though, so as things stand the suggestion is stuck in limbo. Hopefully someone from the PSIKE team will notice that this topic has been re-awakened, and add them to their chart to get things moving again.
Back to Top
Heart of the Matter View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: September 01 2020
Location: Argentina
Status: Offline
Points: 3125 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Heart of the Matter Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 hours 50 minutes ago at 16:35
Hello again, I've expanded the bio in the OP with more detail concerning connections with other acts in the local prog scene, and some insight on their general historical influence. Let's see what you think!
Back to Top
Heart of the Matter View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: September 01 2020
Location: Argentina
Status: Offline
Points: 3125 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Heart of the Matter Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 19 2024 at 17:39
^ Thanks, that brought to my mind Hoy Todo El Hielo En La Ciudad, a micro-universe of prog delights within just 3'

Back to Top
Hrychu View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: November 03 2013
Location: poland?
Status: Offline
Points: 5390 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Hrychu Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 19 2024 at 10:28
Nobody linked A Estos Hombres Tristes yet?

IMO it's their most prog-like song and probably the only one that can be clearly labeled as proto-prog or even full fledged prog folk or crossover prog. B)

Innovative structure ✔
Harmonic complexity ✔
Time signature changes ✔
Dynamic tension building ✔
Flashy solos ✔
Virtuosic instrumental performance (especially the bass) ✔
“On the day of my creation, I fell in love with education. And overcoming all frustration, a teacher I became.”
— Ernest Vong
Back to Top
Heart of the Matter View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: September 01 2020
Location: Argentina
Status: Offline
Points: 3125 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Heart of the Matter Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 15 2023 at 05:48
Here they sound pretty psychedelic to me:





With a more heavy riffage, hard-hitting guitar solo, and jazzy flavor in the vocals:
Back to Top
Heart of the Matter View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: September 01 2020
Location: Argentina
Status: Offline
Points: 3125 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Heart of the Matter Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 24 2022 at 17:13
A seriously researched documentary on Almendra and their multiple relations with other prog and rock bands (in English, made & posted by Blood Wake):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhOB0y9RZQw&list=PLqyoYX2XbKbrcDpqbCiAU4ex4NkAq0XKc&index=1&ab_channel=Sean%27sMusicHunt

Original post: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=128698&PID=5993931&SID=3817260dz4ee54bc444dbb3d19ebb7076967593#5993931
Back to Top
kenethlevine View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Prog-Folk Team

Joined: December 06 2006
Location: New England
Status: Offline
Points: 8962 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote kenethlevine Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 24 2022 at 10:58
Originally posted by Heart of the Matter Heart of the Matter wrote:

^ OK, thank you Ken for keep me posted!

You're welcome!  Greg has some family issues at the moment so it may take a bit.  Sorry!
Back to Top
Heart of the Matter View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: September 01 2020
Location: Argentina
Status: Offline
Points: 3125 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Heart of the Matter Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 24 2022 at 07:01
^ OK, thank you Ken for keep me posted!
Back to Top
kenethlevine View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Prog-Folk Team

Joined: December 06 2006
Location: New England
Status: Offline
Points: 8962 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote kenethlevine Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 23 2022 at 22:49
there doesn't appear to have been much interest from psych.  One person said proto, and the others were silent.  I'll see what Greg thinks
Back to Top
Heart of the Matter View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: September 01 2020
Location: Argentina
Status: Offline
Points: 3125 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Heart of the Matter Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 23 2022 at 06:21
Their 2nd album (Almendra II) has been pointed out as the most psychedelic one.

Listen: https://open.spotify.com/album/4MsNzFYnP4twrraRWNFjqJ
Back to Top
kenethlevine View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Prog-Folk Team

Joined: December 06 2006
Location: New England
Status: Offline
Points: 8962 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote kenethlevine Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 21 2022 at 15:50
ok I will notify the Psych team
Back to Top
Heart of the Matter View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: September 01 2020
Location: Argentina
Status: Offline
Points: 3125 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Heart of the Matter Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 21 2022 at 15:17
^ Thanks Hugues and Ken! Renaming now to Psychedelic/Space.
Back to Top
Sean Trane View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator

Prog Folk

Joined: April 29 2004
Location: Heart of Europe
Status: Offline
Points: 20274 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Sean Trane Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 21 2022 at 14:52
Originally posted by Heart of the Matter Heart of the Matter wrote:

Originally posted by kenethlevine kenethlevine wrote:

so...should we start with psych and then move to proto prog?  Psych is a full fledged prog category whereas proto is somewhere between prog related and prog as I see it, though it has more of a temporal component

Hi Ken, I thought that the Proto category had room for a Psych element, among others, like Folk, that are also present, particularly in their 1st album (which is by far the most influential). That's why I first tagged Proto-Prog this topic. In that way, you don't miss the Psych nor the other elements.

Now, having said that, if you feel that Psych is dominant in their sound as a band, I think you should have a vote on that first. Your decision, anyway.


Proto-prog is generally difficult to clinch, bevause it is the admins who decide. I think it might be easier to clinch entry thru Psychedelic/space team. Wink

After all, the important is that they're in PA.
let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter
keep our sand-castle virtues
content to be a doer
as well as a thinker,
prefer lifting our pen
rather than un-sheath our sword
Back to Top
Heart of the Matter View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: September 01 2020
Location: Argentina
Status: Offline
Points: 3125 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Heart of the Matter Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 21 2022 at 14:43
Originally posted by kenethlevine kenethlevine wrote:

so...should we start with psych and then move to proto prog?  Psych is a full fledged prog category whereas proto is somewhere between prog related and prog as I see it, though it has more of a temporal component

Hi Ken, I thought that the Proto category had room for a Psych element, among others, like Folk, that are also present, particularly in their 1st album (which is by far the most influential). That's why I first tagged Proto-Prog this topic. In that way, you don't miss the Psych nor the other elements.

Now, having said that, if you feel that Psych is dominant in their sound as a band, I think you should have a vote on that first. Your decision, anyway.
Back to Top
kenethlevine View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Prog-Folk Team

Joined: December 06 2006
Location: New England
Status: Offline
Points: 8962 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote kenethlevine Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 21 2022 at 12:40
so...should we start with psych and then move to proto prog?  Psych is a full fledged prog category whereas proto is somewhere between prog related and prog as I see it, though it has more of a temporal component
Back to Top
Heart of the Matter View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: September 01 2020
Location: Argentina
Status: Offline
Points: 3125 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Heart of the Matter Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 15 2022 at 16:48
Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:


Indeed, that second album with the Arab head is folf rock, but the double s/t is much more psych rock.
Therefore, I would favour Almendra either in Psych or Proto-prog (because of the double album), rather than prog folk though that Arab Head does qualify them (a single album).

I completely agree with the Proto-Prog suggestion. That categorization should be preferred for two reasons:
1) To avoid missing the more than obvious psych aspect, which you just pointed out.
2) To make justice to the huge influence this music had on the growing of a prog movement in Argentina.
So, I think you're right proposing this categorization.
Back to Top
Sean Trane View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator

Prog Folk

Joined: April 29 2004
Location: Heart of Europe
Status: Offline
Points: 20274 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Sean Trane Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 15 2022 at 11:55
Originally posted by Heart of the Matter Heart of the Matter wrote:

I just found this older thread with a great amount of additional information on the band:


Indeed, that second album with the Arab head is folf rock, but the double s/t is much more psych rock.
Therefore, I would favour Almendra either in Psych or Proto-prog (because of the double album), rather than prog folk though that Arab Head does qualify them (a single album).



As for their later albums In Obras and El Valle Interior, from what I heard there is not much prog.


let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter
keep our sand-castle virtues
content to be a doer
as well as a thinker,
prefer lifting our pen
rather than un-sheath our sword
Back to Top
Heart of the Matter View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: September 01 2020
Location: Argentina
Status: Offline
Points: 3125 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Heart of the Matter Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 15 2022 at 06:24
^ Thanks Mariano for support and appreciation!
Here we can listen to a live performance of Jaguar Herido (a song not included on any studio album), taken from Almendra En Obras:



Edited by Heart of the Matter - Yesterday at 06:13
Back to Top
Argentinfonico View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: October 05 2021
Location: Argentina
Status: Offline
Points: 368 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Argentinfonico Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 13 2022 at 14:41
Almendra should really be here in PA, especially for their first and last album. Almendra (1969) is the first Argentinean progressive rock album Big smile
-Will I see you tonight?
-I never make plans that far ahead.

Casablanca (1942)
Back to Top
Heart of the Matter View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: September 01 2020
Location: Argentina
Status: Offline
Points: 3125 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Heart of the Matter Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 13 2022 at 14:02
I just found this older thread with a great amount of additional information on the band:
http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=58184&KW=Almendra
Back to Top
 Post Reply Post Reply Page  12>

Forum Jump Forum Permissions View Drop Down



This page was generated in 0.129 seconds.
Donate monthly and keep PA fast-loading and ad-free forever.