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^ What an extraordinary vid Clap epic and moving performance & story. Knew nothing about it. Loved the music and the singing, the early 80's vid, and KN's costume and theatrical style too.

Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

How about Henry Purcell? His best known work is the aria of the Genius of Frost from his opera "King Arthur". Sting and Klaus Nomi did interpretations of it (Sting very unconvincingly). Here Klaus Nomi in his last performance; he died of AIDS shortly afterwards and was most likely well aware that this was his last performance:

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Nice! I generally like English composers but barely know Purcell by name.. I already like Handel (though German-born), but would be interesting to search some operas there.. Thumbs Up 

You know, operas don't give to me very easily.. I'd say the only one I truly like, though well-known as it is, is 'The Magic Flute'. Just for the sake of keep posting vids, :) I once stumbled upon this one by A. Berg, "Wozzeck":




I found it funny and interesting; kind of surreal... great and modern 'incidental' music and maybe the (only) male voices and/or setting got me too, you know, not your average opera.

By the way, put up with BaldJean videos too.. they're awesome as well. Particularly liked the Barbara Strozzi one.
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Originally posted by Machinemessiah Machinemessiah wrote:

Sibelius and Holst for me.


I'm mainly a 'Symphony' guy.. 


Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

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I like Debussy and Gustav Holst (a funny name for an Englishman!) too, although I mainly know their music by way of Isao Tomita's electronic 1970's LP's: Snowflakes Are Dancing & The Planets Suite.

By Holst I also really like: St. Paul's and Brook Green Suites. Also have a CD with the Cotswolds Symphony, Walt Whitman Overture, Japanese Suite and A Winter Idyll. I hear 'The Hymn of Jesus' too from time to time, here's a nice vid: https://youtu.be/WA-tUfeaAgU


Originally posted by Matti Matti wrote:

Generally I prefer the Romantic era, and Gustav Mahler is my choice. I love his orchestral colour and passion.
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I'm far from knowing or liking it all by Mahler, but really really dig this one (the 6th, "Tragic"; and one of my fave classical vids ;) ):


(it seems the video doesn't play through PA, but you can click on the 'watch in YT' link).


Originally posted by Matti Matti wrote:

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I also have a special fondness for English composers such as Frederick Delius, Edward Elgar, Ralph Vaughan Williams and Benjamin Britten.

Me too.. William Walton also.

How about Henry Purcell? His best known work is the aria of the Genius of Frost from his opera "King Arthur". Sting and Klaus Nomi did interpretations of it (Sting very unconvincingly). Here Klaus Nomi in his last performance; he died of AIDS shortly afterwards and was most likely well aware that this was his last performance:


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Since Jean mentioned Carlo Gesualdo: He killed his wife and her lover when he caught them in bed. Since he was a nobleman he got away with it (back in the 16th century this was possible). He did, however, regret it for the rest of his life and in repentance wrote very beautiful and very sad madrigals. Here an example: "Tristis est anima mea" ("Sad is my Soul"):


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Anton Bruckner, followed by Franz Schubert.

My five favorite works:

1) Suk: A Summer's Tale, Op.29
2) Bruckner: Symphony #9 in d
3) Schubert: Piano Sonata in B flat (D.960)
4) Sibelius: Symphony #5 in E flat
5) Rott: Symphony in E
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^ And that's the exact reason why I am so bored with Vivaldi.

When I was 14-15, I played in a junior string orchestra, and approximately half of the repertoire was concerti grossi by Vivaldi or Telemann. They were incredibly predictable.
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Originally posted by Spaciousmind Spaciousmind wrote:

Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

Originally posted by Icarium Icarium wrote:

I love exploring Vivaldi beyond 4 seasons, lots of nice pieces and suits and concertos

I remember another composer, I think it was Stravinsky, saying about Vivaldi that he wrote the same piece of music a thousand times. I would not fully agree, but there is some truth in it

That's a pitiful comment from Stravinsky if he made it.  To do the beautiful music he made in the 17th century with the resources he had to be knocked down 300 years later by a musician of the 20th Century is pretty sad really.

I had also voted for Vivaldi.

I looked it up; it was indeed Stravinsky. the exact quote is: "Vivaldi did not write 400 concertos, he wrote one concerto 400 times"


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Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

Originally posted by Icarium Icarium wrote:

I love exploring Vivaldi beyond 4 seasons, lots of nice pieces and suits and concertos

I remember another composer, I think it was Stravinsky, saying about Vivaldi that he wrote the same piece of music a thousand times. I would not fully agree, but there is some truth in it

That's a pitiful comment from Stravinsky if he made it.  To do the beautiful music he made in the 17th century with the resources he had to be knocked down 300 years later by a musician of the 20th Century is pretty sad really.

I had also voted for Vivaldi.
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Originally posted by Icarium Icarium wrote:

I love exploring Vivaldi beyond 4 seasons, lots of nice pieces and suits and concertos

I remember another composer, I think it was Stravinsky, saying about Vivaldi that he wrote the same piece of music a thousand times. I would not fully agree, but there is some truth in it


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I am not fond of Bruckner at all, except for his 9th symphony; that one is great. but else - no thanks


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I love exploring Vivaldi beyond 4 seasons, lots of nice pieces and suits and concertos

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Mahler is great, especially when conducted by Leonard Bernstein. I especially love his 9th symphony and "Lieder eines fahrenden Gesellen". "Ich hab' ein glühend' Messer, ein Messer in meiner Brust". just great.

there are so many composers that could be on the list. some of my favorites that are not on the list would have included Ravel, Gesualdo, Debussy and Shostakovich. two female composers would also have been on my list: Hildegard von Bingen and Barbara Strozzi (she was way ahead of her time in her compositions). here an example of each of the two women:

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Sibelius and Holst for me.


I'm mainly a 'Symphony' guy.. 


Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

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I like Debussy and Gustav Holst (a funny name for an Englishman!) too, although I mainly know their music by way of Isao Tomita's electronic 1970's LP's: Snowflakes Are Dancing & The Planets Suite.

By Holst I also really like: St. Paul's and Brook Green Suites. Also have a CD with the Cotswolds Symphony, Walt Whitman Overture, Japanese Suite and A Winter Idyll. I hear 'The Hymn of Jesus' too from time to time, here's a nice vid: https://youtu.be/WA-tUfeaAgU


Originally posted by Matti Matti wrote:

Generally I prefer the Romantic era, and Gustav Mahler is my choice. I love his orchestral colour and passion.
...

I'm far from knowing or liking it all by Mahler, but really really dig this one (the 6th, "Tragic"; and one of my fave classical vids ;) ):


(it seems the video doesn't play through PA, but you can click on the 'watch in YT' link).


Originally posted by Matti Matti wrote:

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I also have a special fondness for English composers such as Frederick Delius, Edward Elgar, Ralph Vaughan Williams and Benjamin Britten.

Me too.. William Walton also.
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My favorite top three would probably be Ravel, Debussy and Rachmaninoff.  Bartok is definitely somewhere near the top.

From your list, I would pick Chopin and Mussorksky, the latter of which I figured would be more of a favorite among proggers (Pictures at an Exhibition anyone?)

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Apart from Mozart, my favourites on this list are probably Bach, Britten, Cage, Schubert and Wagner.
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VW from this list - love the English pastoral sound. Probably Sibelius after that, but surprisingly   not list.
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Originally posted by Shadowyzard Shadowyzard wrote:

Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

Originally posted by Progishness Progishness wrote:

Originally posted by Shadowyzard Shadowyzard wrote:

Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

Bach. No contest.


Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

when you do a survey for greatest composer among classical musicians, conductors and composers Bach always wins by a landslide. second place is a photo finish between Beethoven and Mozart with Beethoven winning slightly more often than Mozart


You are aware that we are asked our "favourites", right?

Beethoven's compositions are very lifelike, for me. More than just music.

Here's a quote from the great writer Ursula K. Le Guin on Beethoven:

"He [Beethoven] moves so strangely and quite suddenly sometimes from place to place in his music, in the late quartets. He knows where he’s going and he just doesn’t want to waste all that time getting there. But if you listen, if you’re with it, he takes you with him. I think sometimes about old painters—they get so simple in their means. Just so plain and simple. Because they know they haven’t got time. One is aware of this as one gets older. You can’t waste time."




I've always been mesmerised by the power, emotion and passion in Beethoven's works, and of course he knew how to write some good tunes, and develop his musical themes as the piece progresses.  I've always thought it a great shame that he composed almost nothing for the organ which could show off the power and passion of his compositions to wonderful effect.  Maybe he just didn't understand the instrument, or considered that he couldn't improve on J.S. Bach.

Beethoven's comment on Bach: "He shouldn't be called "Bach" (German for "brook"), he should be called "Meer" (German for "sea")".


Perhaps even "ocean". Wink But I still prefer Beethoven.

In fact, this is almost always the case for me. Artists that I'm a fan of and their influences/idols... For instance Symphony X's music is/was very much influenced by that of Dream Theater's, but I still like SX a lot better. I can give abundant similar examples.

I didn't use the word "ocean" in translation because there is the German equivalent "Ozean". both "Meer" and "Ozean" mean the same though


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Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

Originally posted by Progishness Progishness wrote:

Originally posted by Shadowyzard Shadowyzard wrote:

Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

Bach. No contest.


Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

when you do a survey for greatest composer among classical musicians, conductors and composers Bach always wins by a landslide. second place is a photo finish between Beethoven and Mozart with Beethoven winning slightly more often than Mozart


You are aware that we are asked our "favourites", right?

Beethoven's compositions are very lifelike, for me. More than just music.

Here's a quote from the great writer Ursula K. Le Guin on Beethoven:

"He [Beethoven] moves so strangely and quite suddenly sometimes from place to place in his music, in the late quartets. He knows where he’s going and he just doesn’t want to waste all that time getting there. But if you listen, if you’re with it, he takes you with him. I think sometimes about old painters—they get so simple in their means. Just so plain and simple. Because they know they haven’t got time. One is aware of this as one gets older. You can’t waste time."




I've always been mesmerised by the power, emotion and passion in Beethoven's works, and of course he knew how to write some good tunes, and develop his musical themes as the piece progresses.  I've always thought it a great shame that he composed almost nothing for the organ which could show off the power and passion of his compositions to wonderful effect.  Maybe he just didn't understand the instrument, or considered that he couldn't improve on J.S. Bach.

Beethoven's comment on Bach: "He shouldn't be called "Bach" (German for "brook"), he should be called "Meer" (German for "sea")".


Perhaps even "ocean". Wink But I still prefer Beethoven.

In fact, this is almost always the case for me. Artists that I'm a fan of and their influences/idols... For instance Symphony X's music is/was very much influenced by that of Dream Theater's, but I still like SX a lot better. I can give abundant similar examples.
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Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

Beethoven's comment on Bach: "He shouldn't be called "Bach" (German for "brook"), he should be called "Meer" (German for "sea")".


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Originally posted by Progishness Progishness wrote:

Originally posted by Shadowyzard Shadowyzard wrote:

Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

Bach. No contest.


Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

when you do a survey for greatest composer among classical musicians, conductors and composers Bach always wins by a landslide. second place is a photo finish between Beethoven and Mozart with Beethoven winning slightly more often than Mozart


You are aware that we are asked our "favourites", right?

Beethoven's compositions are very lifelike, for me. More than just music.

Here's a quote from the great writer Ursula K. Le Guin on Beethoven:

"He [Beethoven] moves so strangely and quite suddenly sometimes from place to place in his music, in the late quartets. He knows where he’s going and he just doesn’t want to waste all that time getting there. But if you listen, if you’re with it, he takes you with him. I think sometimes about old painters—they get so simple in their means. Just so plain and simple. Because they know they haven’t got time. One is aware of this as one gets older. You can’t waste time."




I've always been mesmerised by the power, emotion and passion in Beethoven's works, and of course he knew how to write some good tunes, and develop his musical themes as the piece progresses.  I've always thought it a great shame that he composed almost nothing for the organ which could show off the power and passion of his compositions to wonderful effect.  Maybe he just didn't understand the instrument, or considered that he couldn't improve on J.S. Bach.

Beethoven's comment on Bach: "He shouldn't be called "Bach" (German for "brook"), he should be called "Meer" (German for "sea")".


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