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    Posted: August 05 2021 at 07:28
Yeah, I'm a giant XTC fan so that's where I go when I need a fix of 80's art pop.
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I also think I would count Eurythmics as "sophisti-pop", because it definitely has some subtlety, and it is clearly on a higher artistic level than the most corny stadium rock.
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I'm not sure if I know the exact definition of pop, but normally it is short of popular music, and rock counts as popular music too, no?

Pop can be sophisticated in different ways: composition, vocal subtlety, production subtlety, lyrics etc.  If we count Tv-2 as pop, they were clearly sophisticated, especially in terms of lyrics.
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Definitely try Black. My choice would be selftitled compilation of two singles: https://www.discogs.com/Black-Black/master/606152
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I love this song (but the rest of the album, isn't very good)


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Only just seeing this. Would like to recommend the band 22 Layers. Features the vocals of Peter Coyle once of the Lotus Eaters. This is sheer beauty. Came across them on an online Prog festival during lockdown. Amazing music. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPRVs0WU1Aw
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Many have been mentioned already but for me the artists I most respected in the 80's that were NOT prog or metal
Gary Numan 
Tears For Fears
OMD (Maid Of Orleans has a tron!)
China Crisis
Simple Minds (borderline prog band and well known to be fans of Genesis)
Propaganda (a lot of prog musicians were involved in A Secret Wish so its virtually prog anyway!)
Big Country (maybe too 'rock' for this thread?!)
XTC
Siouxsie and The Banshees (check out Israel and Peep Show)
The Stranglers
Jon and Vangelis (The Friends of Mr Cairo surely fits the bill?!)
Ultravox (Vienna is the absolute bees knees for sophisti-pop) 
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I said post the link not the video LOL
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Originally posted by Crane Crane wrote:

I’d like to mention the album Victims by Gizmo, an obscurity from 1981. It doesn’t precisely fit what’s been outlined in this thread, but it’s somewhat more synth-heavy and pop-oriented than your typical prog.

It’s on YouTube but only as a full album. It’s not clear what the rule is here. I’ve seen it said that full album posts aren’t allowed, but I’ve seen full album YouTube videos posted. So I’ll err on the side of caution and let you all search for this.

you can post the link though for full length albums from youtube. 
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I’d like to mention the album Victims by Gizmo, an obscurity from 1981. It doesn’t precisely fit what’s been outlined in this thread, but it’s somewhat more synth-heavy and pop-oriented than your typical prog.

It’s on YouTube but only as a full album. It’s not clear what the rule is here. I’ve seen it said that full album posts aren’t allowed, but I’ve seen full album YouTube videos posted. So I’ll err on the side of caution and let you all search for this.
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The two first albums by Nik Kershaw is what i would call sophisto pop, with a distinct nose for art rocl, but with a bounce no other artists then Nik have.
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Ah, I remember now, this is where I saw Prefab Sprout getting a well-deserved mention, although I never thought of looking for them in the Prog Recommendations forum. Smile
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Originally posted by Crane Crane wrote:

Originally posted by Progmind Progmind wrote:

Hi Crane!!

The Painted Word (my mistake, its The Painted Word not World) was the band of Peter John Vettese (keyboardist of Jethro Tull), they oonly release two amazingd albums, i recommend you "Lovelife"

Sophisti- pop prog hybrid i recommend you:

North Atlantic Oscilation, I specially recommend you the album "Fog Electric"
Wild Nothing - "Nocturne" where the band shows influences from Shoegaze and Dream pop
Leaves - "The Angela Test" very Radiohead + Orchestrations + pop
Eksi Ekso - "I am your b*****d wings" post rock + orchestraton + pop melodies

I’m liking the Painted Word songs I’m hearing. Very good, if typical, sophisti-pop. I’ll try to track down the full albums. I’ll also have to look into your other recommendations. Thanks!

I'm loving the title track to the second Painted Word album "Universal"



Seems their albums are rather hard to track down, with only scattered songs on YouTube. 
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Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

I see that thread title and one album immediately jumps to mind...

The Nightfly

My fav album by Donald Fagen!
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I see that thread title and one album immediately jumps to mind...

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Originally posted by Progmind Progmind wrote:

hi AFlowerKingCrimson

I´m also a RYM user, as far for the divine Comedy, they have two excellent  albums with very high scores "Fin De Siecle" and "Absent friends", i recommend both albums, pure baroque pop!




I'm not actually a rater on there but I do use the site a lot to check out ratings. I also use allmusic sometimes. I wonder how many younger music fans discovered close to the edge because of rym or prog in general. Anyway, I will keep those divine comedy albums in mind. Baroque pop seems like an interesting genre to me. 
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hi AFlowerKingCrimson

I´m also a RYM user, as far for the divine Comedy, they have two excellent  albums with very high scores "Fin De Siecle" and "Absent friends", i recommend both albums, pure baroque pop!
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Originally posted by Progmind Progmind wrote:

Crane, if you like Baroque pop + sophisti i recommend you The Divine Comedy, really a great band with many orchestral arregements.

Another great album, the debut of the band Doves - "Lost Souls" brilliant!!

I recently started going through the top 5000 albums on the rate your music site(the all time list) and writing down the ones that I have heard of or that I haven't heard of but look interesting to me(based on genre and description)and the Divine Comedy were one that  popped up(I don't remember what number or which album(s) though). The Doves might have popped up too I'm not sure. 
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Originally posted by nick_h_nz nick_h_nz wrote:


Despite the use of the word pop in the name, dreampop and shoegaze are generally seen as synonymous and interchangeable. Often you’ll find that what is described as shoegaze on one side of the Atlantic, is referred to as dreampop on the other.

I can recommend Julee Cruise (especially her albums 'Floating into the Night' and 'The Voice of Love'), Melody's Echo Chamber (a project of Melody Prochet), Say Lou Lou, and Lykke Li. 

Also check out the 4AD label projects , in particular This Mortal Coil, and Cocteau Twins .
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