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yogev ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: February 09 2021 Location: Israel Status: Offline Points: 396 |
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I got into Screaming Trees very recently, they are great but I dont think they are better then Stone Temple or Preal Jam. Didn't saw a lot of votes to SPT and SP, most of the votes went to the big four. And Soundgarden gets most of the votes wasent a suprise cause their the proggiest. Edited by yogev - September 24 2021 at 08:20 |
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Morningrise ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 18 2009 Location: Buenos Aires Status: Offline Points: 2766 |
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Alice In Chains, Soundgarden and Nirvana are clearly the best out of the bunch.
The Screaming Trees are way more interesting than Pearl Jam or the STP. |
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verslibre ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 01 2004 Location: CA Status: Offline Points: 18778 |
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Soundgarden
Who are those other bands?
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nick_h_nz ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Prog Metal / Heavy Prog Team Joined: March 01 2013 Location: Suffolk, UK Status: Offline Points: 6737 |
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One of my most favourite albums ever. ❤️ |
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Norbert ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 20 2005 Location: Hungary Status: Offline Points: 2506 |
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SteveG ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 11 2014 Location: Kyiv In Spirit Status: Offline Points: 20617 |
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Alice Cooper. I mean Alice In Chains.
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Mad Season just came up in the rotation. Layne Staley on vocals; Mike McCready on guitars, and Barrett Martin from Screaming Trees on drums. Nice little grunge supergroup.
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yogev ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: February 09 2021 Location: Israel Status: Offline Points: 396 |
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I'm totally agree with you
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Catcher10 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: December 23 2009 Location: Emerald City Status: Offline Points: 17989 |
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Pearl Jam just ahead of Stone Temple Pilots. I hate the term grunge being applied to bands or music.....Grunge is more a way to describe a certain culture, which has faded away like bell bottom jeans or V cut suits.
Living in the PNW, I've seen more bigfoot than teens dressing in grunge..
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Cristi ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Crossover / Prog Metal Teams Joined: July 27 2006 Location: wonderland Status: Offline Points: 45889 |
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Does the "literature" mention the purge that was made in order for grunge to rise (encouraged by the media and labels that smelled money?)
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Icarium ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: March 21 2008 Location: Tigerstaden Status: Offline Points: 34086 |
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After prog Grunge is the genre i have read most genre based litterature from as i have had almost an accademic interest in the music that developed in Seattle between 1980s until 1990 and which led to the explotion between 91 to 94. An intence couldrun of unexpected reach of pure creative genious/madness. Its all about one concert venue called Metropolis.
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Shadowyzard ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: February 24 2020 Location: Davutlar Status: Offline Points: 4506 |
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^ Fair enough. It was just an anarchic sortie of mine.
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Cristi ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Crossover / Prog Metal Teams Joined: July 27 2006 Location: wonderland Status: Offline Points: 45889 |
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Who says? The mainstream media usually. They and the labels of the time tried to ruin metal and did destroy a few bands/artists. As for that song, it's punkish or is it better said post-punkish?
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Shadowyzard ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: February 24 2020 Location: Davutlar Status: Offline Points: 4506 |
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Who says that grunge ruined metal? This is sharper than most of the metal songs.
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I went with Nirvana, Pearl Jams a close second.
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yogev ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: February 09 2021 Location: Israel Status: Offline Points: 396 |
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I don't know why I put them on the poll. They have kind of more mellow sound most of the time, but they feel to me like essential grunge band for some reson, same thing for Stone Temple Pilots.
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AIC>SG>PJ> Nirvana>SP>STP
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I'm gonna say Alice in Chains, but only because I don't consider Smashing Pumpkins to be a true grunge band; otherwise I'd have picked them because of the masterpieces that are Siamese Dream and Mellon Collie.
However, all the big 4 groups have one or two really classic records: Alice in Chains - Gonna have to pick the easy choice of Dirt. To me it's one of the best albums in either alternative or metal music, and there's no weak track in the bunch. If I had to pick a followup, I'd say Tripod; that record is so doomy and sludgy, and the atmosphere is what really makes it for me. Soundgarden - For me, that would be Superunknown. I used to have Badmotorfinger as my favorite - and they're often super close in my ranking, but Superunknown's emotional resonance is incredible. The rawness and doom metal elements of Badmotorfinger are still there, just refined and more melodic. Pearl Jam - Again, the easy choice of Ten. But I will admit that Vs., Vitalogy, and Yield are also in my rotation pretty frequently. I love how experimental the band eventually got, but to me, Ten is just a perfect alt rock album from beginning to end. Nirvana - definitely In Utero. This is by far the easiest choice I have to make for the Big 4 of grunge. In my opinion, Nevermind and Bleach - as solid as they are - don't even come close. In Utero is so raw, punk-inspired, and ugly that I see it as the true record Kurt always wanted to make. It's a much better reflection of his artistry and talents than the other two. Again, I do enjoy Bleach and Nevermind, but In Utero takes this one by a mile. And I guess I'd might as well talk about the other two since they're also in the poll: Stone Temple Pilots - definitely Core. Purple and Tiny Music are also incredibly solid, but Core is a grunge masterpiece. A number of publications referred to that album as "Alice in Chains crashing into Pearl Jam" which is certainly true enough - you get the harrowing lyrics and doomy nature of the former while retaining the more melodic aspects (and vocal style arguably) of the latter. And the songs themselves are just fantastic. Smashing Pumpkins - As I said, this would be my choice if they were a bit more grungy. But considering how many styles they encompass, it's almost impossible to classify them beyond just the "alternative rock" label. Mellon Collie is my favorite here, mostly because of how impressive it is that they could make a 2-hour alt rock concept album and have it contain virtually no filler... which is just crazy. And again, it comes down to the variety; art rock, progressive rock, folk, grunge, jangle pop, alternative metal, and a ton of other genres are represented on that album and yet it still never falls apart. But of course, Siamese Dream would be the followup; gotta love the dream pop and shoegaze elements on that one. Plus, I love the perpetually nostalgic "summer-y" atmosphere, whether it's with the heavier or lighter tracks. Both albums are masterpieces, but I have to give the slight edge to Mellon Collie. To conclude, I still have to go with Alice in Chains. Their discography is ridiculously consistent; I don't think they've ever released anything below a 3.5/5 quality-wise, which is pretty impressive given the amount of full-lengths and EPs they've put out It's also worth noting that there's a number of classics outside of the huge names as well: L7 - Bricks Are Heavy, Hungry for Stank, Smell the Magic Hole - Live Through This, Pretty on the Inside Splendora - In the Grass Temple of the Dog - s/t Mad Season - Above Babes in Toyland - Fontanelle 7 Year Bitch - Viva la Zapata Honestly, there's a lot to choose from if you enjoy the style.
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I suspect for a lot of people, they are really only familiar with only one album from one of these groups, as in almost each case for the four listed here, there was really only one album from each that made a (Trumpian) huge impact. That’s not to say other albums by the bands didn’t sell well, so don’t get your knickers in a twist, fanboys. But for the people who weren’t really fans of the music, it’s pretty easy to guess which album they know from each of these bands. And, of course, often enough, they’ll know only the singles from that album. For me, the self-titled Alice In Chains album that followed Dirt (often known as Tripod) is the greatest album the band released in their first phase. And it could almost be a different band from the one who made Dirt. They lost a lot of fans with it (I was on a listserv group back in the early days of the interweb, and this album was kind of like SW’s The Future Bites in the polarising reactions and emotions it provoked), and probably didn’t gain any new ones - but man, for those who were ready and able to appreciate a change, there were so many great rewards. I’ve never understood why people wanted a Dirt II. Or, in the case of Pearl Jam, a Ten II. In the case of Pearl Jam, Ten is one of my least favourite albums by the band, which in a way is not entirely fair - as every song on there is amazing. But in every case, the songs sound better live, and I’ve so many live PJ albums that I really don’t need to listen to Ten to hear the songs from it. The biggest positive in PJ’s history was getting Matt Cameron onboard. It’s not even about whether or not he is the best drummer that PJ has has, but he is undoubtedly the best drummer for them. He’s brought out the best in the band, and the best in the songs recorded before his arrival. Most of my favourite albums are those with Cameron on drums. Soundgarden, well, my favourite album is Down on the Upside, which I think probably has some of their proggiest moments. I know everyone goes for Superunknown, and I don’t dislike it at all. It has some great tunes. I actually don’t know why I feel somewhat ambivalent about it. I guess some of it comes down to how disappointed I was when I first heard it. I knew it was going to be different, because Badmotorfinger was different from Louder Than Love was different from UltramegaOK. And yet, I got over that fairly quickly. So I don’t know what it is about Superunknown that rubs me up the wrong way, even though I love most of the songs on it. But the point about lead vocals is worth commenting on. What I found, and still find, quite incredible is how distinctive and impressive most of the “grunge” voices are. Layne Staley and Chris Cornell, especially had incredible voices. And, as much as I love Layne’s voice, Jerry Cantrell was always my favourite AiC vocalist. I may not like Nirvana, but there is no doubting how impassioned and emotive and recognisable Kurt Cobain’s vocals were. Eddie Vedder is easily the least impressive vocalist from the big four, but possibly the most distinctive and easily recognised. It’s notable that it was his vocal style that was copied or emulated by so many bands who appeared after the first wave of “grunge”. I’ve often wondered if the reason that people tend to moan about Vedder’s vocals isn’t so much because they are bad, so much as because they inspired so many less impressive (and definitely less original) vocals. |
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